Here is a summary of everything I have:
- Wedding 1913 - Ernest Hargraves
- Sands Directories, Gunnedah, several entries 1913-1918 - I have seen these but haven't noted if a middle name was given (I will check when I can)
- Birth of first daughter XXXXXX - I haven't seen this, but daughter given 2nd name of McQuillan
- Attempted enlistment 1916 - Ernest Hargraves
- Birth of second daughter XXXXXX 1916 - I haven't seen this; name not listed on Certificate of Entry in Register of Births, but daughter given 2nd name of McQuillan
- Divorce 1922,23 - entry in online NSW government database - Ernest Hargraves
[li]Marriage 1924 - Ernest McQuillan Hargraves (mother's name is clearly McQuillan, not McWilliam)[/li]
[li]Birth of third daughter XXXXXXX - don't know[/li]
[li]Property dispute, 1934 - Ernest McQuillan Hargraves[/li]
[li]Death 1939 - Ernest McQuillan Hargraves[/li]
[li]Weddings of 2 of his 3 daughters - Ernest McQuillan Hargraves[/li]
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So the earliest I have is 1924, but it would be interesting to see what is on his three daughters' birth certificates, none of which I have. I clearly have a few things I might chase up.
May I please mention that it is a NO NO to identify living people at RChat, so please
Can you confirm that the daughters are no longer living? On the other hand,
you mention you do not have birth certs ....
have you tried those NSW Divorce files you mentioned?
They are obviously earlier than 1924
Fingers crossed the following will be helpful
http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/indexes-online/court-records/index-to-divorce-case-papersThese case papers can refer to Judicial Separations and not just Divorces. The case papers can include BDM certs (eg marriage for the couple, birth certs for any children of the marriage), correspondence, witness statements, medical records etc).
A Judical Separation does NOT terminate a marriage. So, a Judical Separation was OFTEN about custody of the children, and the payment of regular maintenance. I may be wrong, but on reading the index I think the petitioner was Ernest, and the respondent was Olive.
You can order copies of the case papers from the NSW State Records Office. (link above) I see Ros has already offered to look these up for you
The INDEX has two sets of case papers, and the index does NOT ever differentiate between the Judicial Separation and the Divorce case papers….
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1922 EdwardHARGRAVES and Olive Blanche HARGRAVES Case papers file #0749
1923 Edward HARGRAVES and Olive Blanche HARGRAVES Case papers file # 1353
The 1924 Marriage Ernest McQuillan HARGRAVES …. You have a copy of that. May I please ask for further details from that cert…. For example, what is recorded for the groom’s : occupation, age, place of birth, usual address, father’s occupation. The NSW BDM ref seems to be 14141.
Cheers, JM