James Bailey 1861 census - Please

[47813]

Hello,

I am trying to find out more about the earlier life of my GGG-Grandfather JAMES BAILEY

The earliest census I have him in, is 1871. Searching earlier census', although unable to access the full details, I think he is on the 1861 census in Rochdale.

He was born in Staffordshire and lived his later life in Rochdale. I know he was there in '71 and it seems he was there in '61.
He was born about 1831 possibly in Rushton area of Staffordshire.

Thanks

Jonathan

[suzard]

Is this him in 1851?
Broadway Lane Oldham Lancs
Samuel Whittaker Head M 31 Carter manchester Lancs
Mary wife M 29 Staffordshire
JAMES BAILEY brother S 21 Sizer of Cotton Staffordshire
Thomas Howarth? Brother in law M 27 carter Burnley Lancs
Margaret Howarth wife M 23 domestic Staffordshire
James Howarth son 3 Manchester Lancs
Mary Ann Howarth daughter 9mths Oldham Lancs
HO107 2240 332 18

think the relationships are a little muddled!!!
Suz

[trish1120]

There is also this one;

1861 Census
Rushton James, Staffordshire
RG9/1948/47/11
Charles BAILEY, 57, Head, Mar, Farmer of 160 Acres/Stone Mason
Meriah, 55, Wife, Mar
JAMES, 30, Son, Unm, Journeyman Stone Mason
Meriah, 18, Daug, Unm
All born Rushton

The 1851 James Bailey, a Cotton Sizer, that suzard posted is Married to a Sarah in 1861/1871

Did yours marry a Sarah nee HIRST or is he the Grocer Married to Jane nee MIDGLEY, prob a Widow?

Trish

EDIT;
James BAILEY, Father JAMES Bailey married Sarah HIRST, Father THOMAS Hirst, 15 February 1852, St Mary, Prestwich, Lancashire
(Source Familysearch.Org)

[47813]

Hi,

Thanks, seems we're starting to piece it together.

My James Bailey was married to a lady called Sarah. Her first name and her birthplace and date of Oldham, 1834 is all I know of her.
She must have died between the 1871 and 1881 census' because James is married to a Jane, who's former married name was Midgley. As they are living with some of her children from that pervious marriage.

Does anyone have the full details of this James Bailey from the 1861 census.
He should be still married to his first wife Sarah and have three of their children - Samuel, Nancy and Thomas.

That marriage in 1852 looks good. All i've managed is to find lots of James Bailey's marrying a Sarah in the Manchester area.

[suzard]

no Nancy with them??

1861

5 Clark Place Rochdale Lancs
James Bailey Head M 31 Cotton Warp Sizer Staffs
Sarah wife 25 Oldham Lancs
Samuel W son 6 scholar Oldham
Thomas son 1 Oldham
RG9 3043 6 5

Suz

[heatherjulie]

1871


16 Portland Street, Wardleworth
James Bailey  40 born Staffordshire Warp Sizer
Sara Bailey  37 born Oldham
 Samuel Bailey  17 born Oldham
 Nancy Bailey  14 born Oldham Factory operative Cotton
 Thomas Bailey  12 born Oldham Doffer
 Charles Bailey  9 born Rochdale

4124/42/35

[heatherjulie]

James Bailey 1853 Oldham mmn Hurst
Samuel Whitworth Bailey  1854 Oldham mmn Hirst
Nancy Bailey 1857 Oldham mmn Hurst
Thomas Bailey 1859 Oldham mmn Hirst

[heatherjulie]

Did James b 1853 die 1853?
There is a death on www.lancashirebmd.org.uk

[Radcliff]

Marriage in full, mentioned in post by Trish,
St Mary The Virgin,Prestwich,Lancashire,
15th Feb 1852
James Bailey, aged 22,sizer,bachelor,of Broadway Lane Oldham,
Sarah Hirst, (x) aged 19,spinster,of Broadway Lane Oldham,
Grooms father James Bailey,Mason.
Brides father, Thomas Hirst, Collier,
Witness to the marriage by Banns,
John Bates and Thomas Hilton,(x)