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RAMSEY
« on: Friday 25 October 13 11:58 BST (UK) »
I been trying to find what happened to this particular branch of the Ramsey/Ramsay family from Derry City and can't get any information more recent than 1882.

William Ramsey (c1836), son of Francis & Rose Ann, m.(28 June 1866 Co.Derry) Mary Jane O’Donnell. Known children:
1.   Mary Jane Ramsey (29 Jan.1867, 5 Harvey St.-6 Feb.1867 Harvey St.).
2.   Thomas Ramsey (29 Jan.1867, 5 Harvey St., Derry).
3.   Henry Ramsey (14 Apr.1868 Harvey St.-20 May 1868, Harvey St.).
4.   Rosanne Ramsey (22 June 1869 Fort Hill St., Enniskillen).
5.   Mary Jane Ramsey (1 Mar.1871 Enniskillen).
6.   William Ramsey (16 Aug.-16 Aug.1873, Harvey St.).
7.   Anne Ramsey (16 Aug.1873 Londonderry-d.y.).
8.   William Ramsey (23 July 1874 Derry).
9.   John James Ramsey (21 June 1877, 7 Harvey St., Derry).
10.   Anna Eliza Ramsey (21 Oct.1879 Derry).
11.   Francis Ramsey (c8 July 1882 Wapping La.-18 July 1882 Wapping La.).

I've crossed out the children who died young (buried Derry City Cemetery but no sign of parents or other siblings). William was a labourer (1867) and then railway guard (1869) and could have moved away from Derry in connection with his work.
Father Francis was a railway porter and brother Thomas also worked for railway and went to Ballyshannon (Donegal) and Enniskillen (Fermanagh) before settling in Dundalk (Louth). Other known siblings were Mary Anne, Samuel, Elizabeth, Isabella, Robert (bapt. 1855 Carlisle Road Presbyterian Church).

There are lots of Ramseys in Derry (both Catholic and Protestant) and I have details on most of them. Am stuck with this particular family and would appreciate any clues.
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Re: RAMSEY
« Reply #1 on: Friday 06 December 13 19:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi
can you shed any light on the following Ramsey?
1901 census living with my ggrandfather  John Black in Sherriffs Mountain she is aged 6 and listed as niece
1911 census she is 18 and listed as granddaughter

I know who she married but don't know who her parents are

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Re: RAMSEY
« Reply #2 on: Friday 06 December 13 20:27 GMT (UK) »
For reference here are links to the census records you've found-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Upper_Liberties/Sherriffs_Mountain/1538803
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Liberties__Upper/Sheriff_s_Mountain/605026

I can't see any sign of this Lizzie Ramsey in my records but will let you know if I do come across anything on her.
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Re: RAMSEY
« Reply #3 on: Friday 06 December 13 21:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
 This may be a coincidence but in 1868 a Margaret Jane Black was born to John Black and Martha Duffy in Londonderry. In 1888 Margaret Jane Black married James Ramsey in Ballyarnett Presbyterian Church, Londonderry.

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Re: RAMSEY
« Reply #4 on: Friday 06 December 13 21:25 GMT (UK) »
This may be a coincidence but in 1868 a Margaret Jane Black was born to John Black and Martha Duffy in Londonderry. In 1888 Margaret Jane Black married James Ramsey in Ballyarnett Presbyterian Church, Londonderry.

This John Black/Martha Duffy are the John Black/Matilda Duffy mentioned above.

In view of the above marriage for a Margaret Jane Black & James Ramsey in 1888 I offer the following as a possibility:
James Ramsey (born c1865) was a widower in 1901 with children Ethel (14), Mary (10), James (8). In 1911 the same James Ramsey mistakenly listed himself as being married 26 years with 4 children (all living) which means there was a missing child in 1901- perhaps little Lizzie?
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Londonderry_Urban_No__1/Creggan_Road/1530650
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Londonderry_Urban__1_/Artisan_Street/600747
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Re: RAMSEY
« Reply #5 on: Friday 06 December 13 21:35 GMT (UK) »
Yes that's definitely them thanks-if I recall Martha or Matilda Duffy married John Black in St Columb's C of Ireland-her father was a John or James Duffy(I think have it somewhere!) from Sherriffs Mountain but haven't been able to find any record of the Duffy family but I know she was listed as C of Ireland on their marriage certificate-any leads there?
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Re: RAMSEY
« Reply #6 on: Friday 06 December 13 21:42 GMT (UK) »
Details of the family were posted on an earlier topic of yours-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=614178
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Re: RAMSEY
« Reply #7 on: Friday 06 December 13 21:43 GMT (UK) »
Sorry it was Thomas Duffy and I have asked about him before!-onset of old age!

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Re: RAMSEY
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 09 February 14 17:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi i am from Enniskillen and my family name is Ramsey, its interesting to see that the names in your family and the Occupations are very similar
My Great Grandfather was William, My Grandfather was Frances (railway Guard) the Names John George Thomas William Gordon Robert Jane Eliza Susan Violet elizabeth Deborah. At least 3 of my Uncles were employed by the railways GNR and SLNCR Frances was stationed at Manorhamilton SLNCR for some years, George was on GNR Omagh for a few years before going to Canada