Swans of Northumberland

[Anydogsbody]

Sherekhan

My head's spinning with all these names. Everyone seems to be called Robert or Thomas or Isabel or Isabella over several generations and I think I've slipped a generation. When I found Robert Swan 1774 married to Isabella Watson with parents Dorothy and Robert I naturally assumed that was the one I was looking for but I think your Thomas 1789 makes more sense. Could Thomas 1774 be a very late son of the previous generation i.e. Robert Swan and Dorothy Rickerby?

Anyway, Thomas Swan 1811, Ann Swan 1803's brother is the one I was really after because he links in nicely with William H Darling on the Jarrow census.

Without referring to your tree I think that I am descended from Lydia's brother Robert 1779 which would make our common ancestors Robert Swan and Dorothy Gilhespey. Your 4th great grand uncle is my 4gGrandfather

Incidentally, yeoman is, I think, a general and possibly slightly euphemistic term for peasant. It perhaps came to be used in a military sense when regiments were raised from the rural inhabitants of the country; the Blankshire Yeomanry etc

Richard

[sherekhan]

right now to put another spanner in the works LOL
Willaim Gledson 1748 - 1847 married Isabel Swan in Bedlington in 1770.  John Gledson his son married Lydia Swan (1774) from our tree.  Is it possible these Swan families were in fact one and the same.
Paul

[Anydogsbody]

I presume Isabel Swan was not a known relative of Lydia Swan otherwise, if you read further back in this thread and look at the marriage licence of Robert Swan and Isabel Hindmarsh you'll see why, William might have found himself paying a hefty fine for violating the conditions of consanguinity and affinity.

I have come across a number of situations where two sisters have married two brothers and one situation where on the demise of a sister and a brother the remaining couple who were previously sister-in-law and brother-in-law became husband and wife. That sort of thing ties your family tree in knots.

[sherekhan]

It was not Illegal to marry a cousin or second cousin, all I know about this other Isabel is that she had a brother(yet another) Robert b 1747.
Paul

[sherekhan]

Perhaps if some nice person could try to find the marriage in Bedlington of William Gladson and Isabel swan(n) in 1770 on the Bishops transcripts we might have a better idea.  In 1812 John Gledson Williams son was a Miller. John was born 05 Nov 1770 in East Sleekburn, Bedlington.
Paul

[..claire..]

Hi

 A Yeoman:
In the late 14th to 18th centuries, yeomen were farmers who owned land (freehold, leasehold or copyhold) and their wealth and the size of their landholding varied.

Thought you might be interested in this

http://be.convdocs.org/docs/index-104721.html?page=9

claire

[Anydogsbody]

Claire

So yeomen were sort of posh peasants ;-)

[Anydogsbody]

Claire, thanks for the link to the Swanns of Bedlington. Well done for finding that.

Haven't had a chance to read through it in detail yet but I was interested in the origins of the name. Do all the Northumbrian Swans have the same progenitor?

R

[trish1120]

BAPTISMS, Holy Trinity, Embleton;
DARLING, Parents HENRY and ISABELLA;
WILLIAM HENRY, 17 June 1821
JOHN BELL, 25 May 1823
HENRY, 07 Aug 1825
ROBERT DIXON, 05 Oct 1828
All have abode as Embleton, Fathers Occp Farmer/Husbandman or Shopkeeper
(Source FreeREG)
From Familysearch.Org to them also;
JANE ISABELLA, 01 Aug 1830, Ulgham

BURIAL;
ISABELLA Darling, 03 June 1840, St Cuthberts, Bedlington, age 49

1841 Census
Bedlington, Durham
HO107/296/1/Bedlinton
Henry DARLING, 40, Coach Pro.
Margaret, 30
WILLIAM H, 20, Mason
Robert D, 12
Jane Isaac, 10
THOMAS, 7

MARRIAGE from FreeREG;
05 Dec 1840, St Mary, Morpeth, Northumberland
Henry DARLING, Widower, Coach Proprietor, abode Bedlington, Father WILLIAM Darling a Farmer
Margaret JACKSON, Father John JACKSON a Surgeon

1851 Census Henry/Margaret have 4 young Children and WiILLIAM/THOMAS Darling are visting with THOMAS/ISABELLA Swan in Cowpen.

Trish