Author Topic: Finland: Hilja Kutja b. 1891 to Canada by 1912  (Read 9264 times)

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Re: Finland: Hilja Kutja b. 1891 to Canada by 1912
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 01 October 16 00:38 BST (UK) »
The record said Swante Todisto but it should have been Svante. All the other info matches to Manasse's.

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Re: Finland: Hilja Kutja b. 1891 to Canada by 1912
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 01 October 16 09:33 BST (UK) »
There looks to have been a Svante Toristo leaving Finland  3 Sept 1913.


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Re: Finland: Hilja Kutja b. 1891 to Canada by 1912
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 01 October 16 10:07 BST (UK) »
Taking a look for Svante Todisto as a passenger, he was in Finland with his wife Elli and child Olavi in 1929.
I have noticed that his surname has two variations, Toristo and Todisto.


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Re: Finland: Hilja Kutja b. 1891 to Canada by 1912
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 01 October 16 10:55 BST (UK) »
I have a few back and forth from USA to Canada and back between 1914 - 1917. I then have Svante 'Toristo' with wife Elli and son Olavi, on a passanger list abroad the Drottningholm. leaving Gothenburg, Sweden 17 Aug 1929 heading to halifax, Canada. Their final destination is listed as Sault Ste Marie, Ont, Canada (which isn't overly far from Thunder Bay). I have a very hard to read boarding crossing record from 7 Dec 1917 (same day Hilja dead, oddly enough). It shows Svante Toristo, from Isojoki, Finland. aged 23, father Antti - Isojoki, Finland. The last line is really hard to read but looks like 'first arrival in Canada' Halifax Sept 1913 Victorian.

I just went over some of my notes and I also have:
a Manasseh Anderson arriving in St.Albans, Vermont, USA, however it has their birth place listed as Canada.   
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3 listings for Hilja Anderson - one arriving in Boston, one in Quebec and one crossing from the USA into Canada (but I think they are all unlikely to be matches)



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Re: Finland: Hilja Kutja b. 1891 to Canada by 1912
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 01 October 16 19:23 BST (UK) »
Here is the translation for Manasse's birth record:

Born 15 Oct 1885 and christened 18 Oct 1885.
Born in Isojoki village as Johan Manasse. His mothers's age was 39.
Hedborg farm, croftowner, farmer Anders Enochsson and wife Klara Stina Eriksdotter.
Godparents: Farmer Samuel Paulus Samuelsson Pukkila with wife Hilda Wilhelmina Jonasdotter.

Again the minister has got the names wrong.


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Re: Finland: Hilja Kutja b. 1891 to Canada by 1912
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 01 October 16 19:27 BST (UK) »
Here are Manasse's family as of the 1902 "census":


Isojoki, Hedborg Nr 2, Todisto

Karl Antti Anttinsson - b.25 Sept 1854 - Lammiharju
Klaara Heikindotter - b.2 Aug 1856 - Siiro

Juho Manasse Antinsson - b.15 Oct 1885 - Täällä
Hilda Maria - b.7 June 1887 - Täällä
Antti Nikolai - 16 May 1891 - Täällä
Svante Albert - b.30 Nov 1894 - Täällä


The entries are in Finnish now, not Swedish.


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Re: Finland: Hilja Kutja b. 1891 to Canada by 1912
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 01 October 16 22:12 BST (UK) »
Wow Ian thank you so much, I was given a family tree with one of Manasse's branches. However since I can't read Swedish or Finn I've been using google translate, however I am still very confused of the rules of Last names at that time.... and so have been unable to find what you have.

Sadly short of finding a record linking Manasse with Hilja I realise that I may never know anything more about her. Which is very sad, she lived only about 26 years and without her I wouldn't be here, how can she be on only two records.

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Re: Finland: Hilja Kutja b. 1891 to Canada by 1912
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 02 October 16 09:57 BST (UK) »
Cheers.

I am unable to find them in the 1911 census. They should be there as Wilma was born 1909 in Ontario. Have you looked for them in 1911?


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