Birth/Baptism of Joseph John Bucknall around 1814 in Staffordshire

[ragt39]

I am researching a Bucknall family and in particular Joseph John Bucknall who I believe married Anne Theresa Massey and produced 5 sons - Augustine (1842), Joseph John Massey (1845), Edmund (1847), Wilfred William (1850) & Robert Cuthbert (1852), all born in Chorlton-cum-Medlock, Lancashire.  Joseph (aged 57) & Anne (aged 55) Bucknall appear on the 1871 census living in Liverpool where Joseph was a 'Marine Master Broker'.  Both are stated as born in Staffordshire.  In 1881 & 1891 they are living in the Isle of Man and whilst Joseph was born in England , his wife Ann was born in Wales.  Can anybody help me find the birth/baptism of Joseph John Bucknall in Staffordshire?  Also, I would like to verify the marriage of Joseph John Bucknall & Anne Theresa Massey - I have the birth certificate of their eldest son Augustine (1842) which gives his mother's name.

[CaroleW]

Also, I would like to verify the marriage of Joseph John Bucknall & Anne Theresa Massey - I have the birth certificate of their eldest son Augustine (1842) which gives his mother's name.

The marriage is on freebmd 1840  Staffs if you search using Ann Teresa Massey

Also on www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk

[CaroleW]

Joseph & Ann are on the 1841 in Chorlton - no children both aged 25 (ages were rounded down to the nearest 5yrs in 1841)

HO107 Piece 580/14 Folio 5 Page 2

[Willow 4873]

I cant find the family on the 1851 census which might be helpful

Willow x

[CaroleW]

Nor could I but a portion of the Manchester 1851 was water damaged so if they were in one of the areas affected that could account for it.

However - that doesn't explain why I can't find them in 1861 either

[ragt39]

I have now obtained a copy of the marriage cert for Joseph John Bucknall and Ann Teresa Massey - married on 14 July 1840 in the Catholic Chapel, St. Gregorys, Stoke 0n Trent.  Joseph's father was a Robert Bucknall, a Potter.  One of the witnesses was a Mary Stevenson Bucknall - maybe mother or sister?  Unable to find Robert Bucknall on the 1841 census.  Still trying to verify the birth/baptism of Joseph John Bucknall around 1814-1816.

[ChrissieL]

There is a marriage on Familysearch of Robert Bucknall to Maria Adams on 7 October 1813 at St Johns, Burslem, Stoe on Trent

On the 1841 Class: HO107; Piece: 992; Book: 7; Swinnerton.
There is a
Robert Bucknall aged 50
Maria Bucknall 50
Mary Bucknall 25
Also Eliza Barlow 30

Maybe your Robert?   
Chris

[ragt39]

No, I don't think so - thar Robert's occupation was a 'Writing Clerk' (they also appear on the 1851 census) whereas my Robert was a 'Potter' as stated on the marriage cert of Joseph John Bucknall.  Thanks for looking.

[..claire..]

Hi

More info from the marriage ChrissieL gave

Burslem, St John the Baptist : 7 Oct 1813

Robert Bucknall, bachelor  a POTTER of Burslem
Maria Adams, spinster of Burslem

Witnesses: Ralph Stevens and Mary Ann Godwin

claire