Chromo2 DNA Results from BritainsDNA /ScotlandsDNA / IrelandsDNA

[wmather]

Hi.  I have just received my Chromo2 results from ScotlandsDNA but have not yet got access to the raw data.  I am Haplogroup I-M253 Subtype I-S337.   I am willing to share the raw data when it becomes available.

[supermoussi]

Hi.  I have just received my Chromo2 results from ScotlandsDNA but have not yet got access to the raw data.  I am Haplogroup I-M253 Subtype I-S337.

I take it this is for your Mather line. Do your Hamiltons include Alexander Hamilton ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Hamilton ) who was also supposedly an M253.

see  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I-M253

[wmather]

I take it this is for your Mather line. Do your Hamiltons include Alexander Hamilton ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Hamilton ) who was also supposedly an M253.

Yes this is my Mather line which I have gone back 6 generations.   The mother of John Mather (4 generations back) was a Janet Hamilton.  Her paternal line goes back to Robert Hamilton born circa 1715 in Lesmahagow.  No connection to Alexander Hamilton.

[DevonCruwys]

Hi.  I have just received my Chromo2 results from ScotlandsDNA but have not yet got access to the raw data.  I am Haplogroup I-M253 Subtype I-S337.   I am willing to share the raw data when it becomes available.

You need to contact Ken Nordtvedt as he is the haplogroup I expert. There's been some discussion of Chromo 2 results on the haplogroup I list on Rootsweb.

I suggest you join this list and find out more there or e-mail Ken direct.

[rosingirl]

My brother had the Chromo 2 DNA test done with Scotland's DNA several months ago.  The results are in, however I don't know how to interpret the markers.  Is there a way to upload the results to GEDmatch.com or is Scotland'sDNA in the process of doing a similar interpretive "match" of our results?   Thank you!  He/we are  S1b-S145 Pretani  Teresa

[DevonCruwys]

S145 is the ScotlandsDNA name for a SNP which is more commonly known as L21. I suggest you ask for help on the L21 mailing list on Yahoo:

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/R1b-L21-Project/info

ScotlandsDNA do not have a matching database. If your brother wants to use his Y-DNA for matching purposes he would need to get a different type of Y-DNA test done which looks at different markers known as STR markers (STR = short tandem repeat). The company to test with is Family Tree DNA who have the world's largest Y-chromosome database. At FTDNA he could join the relevant surname, geographical and haplogroup projects. There is an L21 project at FTDNA and they would be able to use his Chromo 2 results in combination with his STR results to determine his place on the L21 tree:

https://www.familytreedna.com/public/R-L21/

The 37-marker test is the standard entry-level test, but for deep ancestry purposes it's more useful to test at 67 markers. You get a discount if you test in a project. FTDNA usually have a sale in the summer and again at Christmas. You will find additional information in the ISOGG Wiki:

http://www.isogg.org/wiki/

[rosingirl]

Thank you for such an informative answer!  I'm sort of new to all this and didn't understand the parameters of ScotlandsDNA.  You've been most helpful!!   

[Jacquelinemercer1]

Hi, I'm new to this DNA testing. 

I attended WDYTYR Live in February and got my father to have a Chromo2 test with Britains DNA -both fatherline and motherline, my daughter started off with All My Ancestry and we have just upgraded to the mtDNA - the results are in.

My father falls into YDNA Haplogroup I-M253, subtype I-S10967 (Teutonic)
                            mtDNA Haplogroup  K, subtype K2a (Levantine)

My daughters mtDNA Haplogroup is H, subtype H39 (Pioneers)
 

If anyone has any information, can help with what all this means (!) please get in touch.  I would like to know more.

[DevonCruwys]

The tests you've taken with BritainsDNA are deep ancestry tests and can't be used for genealogy purposes. You have been given information about your paternal and maternal haplogroups. A haplogroup is your branch on the human Y-DNA or mtDNA tree. Ignore the names (Teutonic, etc) as they are just nicknames and don't have any scientific value. You can, however, read up on your haplogroups to learn more about your deep ancestry.

You'll find information on the various haplogroups on Eupedia:

http://www.eupedia.com/genetics/

If you wish to use DNA results for genealogy purposes then you would need to get a genetic genealogy test done with Family Tree DNA who have a large worldwide matching database and projects for surnames and all the different haplogroups. However, the Chromo 2 results aren't compatible because they don't test the same range or type of markers.

I-M253 is also known as haplogroup I1. You might like to join the haplogroup I mailing list where they might be able to give you advice:

http://lists5.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/DNA/Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I.html

ISOGG maintain the Y-DNA tree and you can find the tree here:

http://www.isogg.org/tree/

I can't find the marker S10967 on the tree so it must be a newly discovered SNP that hasn't yet been listed. The haplogroup I list should be able to tell you more about it.

You might also like to contact the admins of the haplogroup I1 Project at Family Tree DNA as they might well be collecting Chromo 2 SNP data.

The mtDNA tree can be found on the Phylotree website:

http://www.phylotree.org/

The haplogroup K expert is Bill Hurst who runs the haplogroup K project at Family Tree DNA:

http://www.familytreedna.com/public/mtDNA_K

You can look at the project results to get an idea of the distribution of K2a. I'm not sure if Bill is collecting Chromo 2 results.

There is an active haplogroup H group on Facebook where you would be able to ask for information about H39:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/396615513748743/

It's too late now but you would have been better off doing a full mitochondrial sequence test at FTDNA, which sequences all 16,569 base pairs in the mtGenome. The Chromo 2 mtDNA test covers around 3000 base pairs, but is much more expensive. However, unless you want to use the mtDNA tests for genealogical purposes then it's not worth re-testing.