First World War Uniforms : Identification please?

[andaluz]

Can anyone help by identifying the uniforms on the attached photos please? The sailors cap reads "Lapwing II" but there were several ships by this name, both royal navy and merchant navy. All help gratefully received!

[HMac]

My guess is that they [bottom photo] are RNR men. I would suggest LAPWING II was the trawler requisitioned for minesweeping duty in 1915.
http://www.fleetwood-trawlers.info/index.php/2009/08/s-t-lapwing-gy317/

Would you care to give any full names for a check?

Regards
Hugh

[andaluz]

Thank you for such a prompt response! I only know that the man on the right was my great uncle Tudor Williams. The other sailor is not named.

Regards

Gareth

[Westmoreland]

Hi
Doe you have anything else on Tudor
any other names
Birth date
Regards
Westmorland

[andaluz]

As far as I know he had no other names, and Iīm afraid the best I can do for a dob is about 1892 in Merthyr Tydfil. On the other photo are his two brothers Idris and Rees but I donīt suppose that helps at all!

Thanks, Gareth.

[keyboard86]

Hi presume in 1901 Tudor Williams b c 1892 Merthyr Tydfil is the one with parents Rees b c 1855 Llanthety, Brecon and Ann b c 1855 b Llangorse, Brecon, residing at 41, Iron Lane, Merthyr Tydfil
Census Ref RG13/5013/48/28



Idris born b c 1894 Rees b c 1885 on the 1891 Census

Keyboard86

[Jool]

Freebmd has this birth
Tudor Christmas Williams
Merthyr Tydfill 11a 649
March Q 1892

[Westmoreland]

Hi
Found some of Idris' Army service
Enlisted in 1912 5th Welch Regt number 1648 he was 5 foot 2 inches and 17 years 7 months
He then transfered to the Royal Engineers number wr 195884
Wounded in action 1/4/17 arm and head hospital Alexandria
Then retained 14/2/18 and he is at Nottingham
Regards
I'll see what I can get for the other two
Westmorland

[Westmoreland]

Hi
Tudor Christmas was in the army not navy
regards
Westmorland