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Re: First World War Uniforms : Identification please?
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 01 December 13 20:13 GMT (UK) »
Here's a snippet of info from the tree....

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SS Lapwing 11 British Cargo Steam Ship 1911-1917 . Ship was sunk on 11 November 1917 on a voyage from Rotterdam to London. Struck by a mine from a German Submarine . No Casualties Not known if Tudor was on board.
Robbins - Wolverhampton.
Spooner - Monmouthshire & Wolverhampton.
Warner & Loundes - Dudley/Smethwick.
Dod(g)son - Heysham/Liverpool/Wolverhampton

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Re: First World War Uniforms : Identification please?
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 01 December 13 20:17 GMT (UK) »
Interesting....  here is Tudor's marriage on Freebmd

Tudor C Williams
Clara Hutson. So Clara and Olive were the same person  :o
Dec Q 1918 Falmouth
There is a Clara Hutson born in Falmouth 1891.

Edit to say the only Clara I can find born 1894 is from Derbyshire.
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Bedale: Caygill,Auton
Greenock: Wilson, Crawford, Gillies, Blue & others

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Re: First World War Uniforms : Identification please?
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 01 December 13 20:27 GMT (UK) »
Tudor Williams seem to quite a popular name. I owned a flat in New Malden, Surrey 200, yards from Tudor Williams' Department Store which is still going strong.

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Re: First World War Uniforms : Identification please?
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 01 December 13 20:28 GMT (UK) »
Im getting dizzy now! Yes my cousin has noted on Ancestry that the SS Lapwing was a cargo ship, however the start of my enquiry here was about uniforms. Is the uniform worn by Tudor Royal Navy or was he in the merchant navy? If the latter then he may have been a crew member of the SS Lapwing my cousin mentions. If he was RN then could he have been on the HMS Lapwing which was also around at the time I think? I just dont know enough about the subject to decide which way to go. I assume there was a difference between the uniforms?  Ill write to her to ask whether Olive could also be Clara and whether Tudor might be Tudor Christmas as that may help resolve some of the puzzles. Im also interested to know what the army uniforms are, if anyone can recognise them from the photo.

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Re: First World War Uniforms : Identification please?
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 01 December 13 20:30 GMT (UK) »
The family in 1911:
Rees Williams age 56
Anne Williams aged 58
Tydfil Williams aged 20
Idris Williams Aged 17
Tudor Williams  Aged 19
Zilliah Williams Aged 13
Living at 9 Hanover Street.

It looks as if Rees, the son had already left home by this time.
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Greenock: Wilson, Crawford, Gillies, Blue & others

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Re: First World War Uniforms : Identification please?
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 01 December 13 20:32 GMT (UK) »
Here's the lapwing sunk in 1917:
http://www.wrecksite.eu/wreck.aspx?12668
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Re: First World War Uniforms : Identification please?
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 01 December 13 20:35 GMT (UK) »
Im also interested to know what the army uniforms are, if anyone can recognise them from the photo.
It's hard to make out any badges to identify units but what is interesting is that in the first picture all three have wound stripes!
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Re: First World War Uniforms : Identification please?
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 01 December 13 20:37 GMT (UK) »
Gareth, I'm sure there are Rootschatters who are more familiar with army uniforms digging about trying to identify the regiments of Idris and Rees, someone will hopefully come back to you soon  :)
Robbins - Wolverhampton.
Spooner - Monmouthshire & Wolverhampton.
Warner & Loundes - Dudley/Smethwick.
Dod(g)son - Heysham/Liverpool/Wolverhampton

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Re: First World War Uniforms : Identification please?
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 01 December 13 20:38 GMT (UK) »
For the sailor, they are not wound stripes they are Sea Service Chevrons. I also don't think the steamship LAPWING sunk in 1917 is the right ship.

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