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Offline Jool

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Who was Hattie?
« on: Sunday 29 December 13 16:05 GMT (UK) »
I am trying to find out who Samuel Edge's second wife was.  According to this website her name was Hattie, one of his employees, there is a photo of Samuel and Hattie on page 2.
http://www.historywebsite.co.uk/Museum/OtherTrades/EdgeShoes/edge1.htm

Samuel Edge b. Whitchurch, Shropshire 18 Oct 1861, d. Bilston, Staffs 1 Aug 1934.
He married first wife Naomi Nume 25 Dec 1885 at The Primitive Methodist Church, Bilston.  Naomi died 25 Nov 1918 in Bilston.

So, I am looking for a marriage between late 1918 and 1934.  Assuming (maybe a mistake  :-\) Hattie was Harriet, I spotted a marriage in Stafford June Q 1921 6b 37 Samuel Edge to Harriet Newcombe. UKBMD shows the marriage was at The Weslyan Methodist Chapel, Stafford (his first marriage was at a methodist church too). 

I cannot find likely Harriet Newcombe anywhere, Newcombe was possibly a previous married name as  they married late in life.  No mention of Hattie in Samuel's probate index, I cannot find a likely death for Hattie either.

I realise purchasing the cert would answer my question but as Samuel is not a direct ancestor I have other certs taking priority.

I have all the info I need on Samuel and his family so please don't waste your time on that.  Thanks in advance for any help or guidance on Hattie.

Jool
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Re: Who was Hattie?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 29 December 13 19:10 GMT (UK) »
Well I've had a good look around in the Census years and at some marriages but unfortunately have drawn a blank.As to whether her maiden name was other than Newcombe,well the problem is there doesn't appear to be any Harriet Newcombes anywhere remotely near Wolverhampton in 1901 or 1911.Neither do there appear to be any marriages of a Harriet to a Newcombe post 1911.

Those with a name of Harriet Newcombe appear to be very thin on the ground,there only being 25 births of that name all told before 2005!

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: Who was Hattie?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 29 December 13 19:15 GMT (UK) »
Thanks WRJ for taking the time to look for Hattie, I hoped fresh pair of eyes may spot something I had missed.  It looks like she is going to remain a mystery.
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Re: Who was Hattie?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 29 December 13 19:46 GMT (UK) »
There is a death of a Harriet Newcombe in the Stafford District in 1925 giving a birthyear of c 1870,apart from that one there are none in the Wolverhampton District.

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
Census Information Is Crown Copyright,from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


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Re: Who was Hattie?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 29 December 13 22:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jools

Samuel's address was Escoyd, Elm Street, Phone 41522
In 1935, 1936, 1937, 1938, a Mrs E EDGE  was at that address & phone Nr.

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Re: Who was Hattie?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 29 December 13 22:24 GMT (UK) »
If she's an E Edge, two possibles in Wolverhampton

Dec 1920   
Edge    Samuel T   
Jarvis Ellen   
Wolverhampton    6b 1442

Dec 1932 
Edge    Samuel
Dunton Elizabeth J
Wolverhampton 6b 1295

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Re: Who was Hattie?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 29 December 13 22:37 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Who was Hattie?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 29 December 13 22:48 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Ambly and Mabel for your information, maybe Hattie was her middle name or a nickname and her real name began with E.  I have Samuel's address as Escoyd, Elm Street.  I will look into this Mrs. E. Edge further, thank you.

Priscilla, yes it is the same article as I posted in my first post, thanks for your interest.

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« Reply #8 on: Monday 19 March 18 17:38 GMT (UK) »
Hello, I am new to roots and am responding to an old question. Who was Hattie? Wife of Samuel Edge Shoemaker.
She was my G G Aunt. My father and I remember her well.
If this is still a topic feel free to respond to this msg. Thank you.
P.S. We now live in Canada since 1966.