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help needed with a nsw birth please
« on: Wednesday 01 January 14 02:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi - I have a Roy Elliott born 29th July 1912 in Sydney - according to his WW2 record.
(Roy died 1997)
I am looking for a birth certificate for Roy.   He was raised by Charlotte Anne Elliott nee Chamberlain and Mathew Elliott but they were not his parents, the story in the family is that one of the female family members was his mother.
In a old handwritten family tree document that my grandmother had written it had Roy Elliott under Jessie M Chamberlain (charlotte Anne Elliott nee Chamberlain's sister)
Jessie M Chamberlain had 2 children that I am aware of out of wedlock, but they both died young, I can't find any evidence that she had a third baby - Roy.
I was hoping that with the release of the 1913 births today I would of found Roy under one of the family names - or maybe under Elliott, I had already done a good search of the 1912 index.
So I guess I am asking if anyone would have any ideas for me to search now?
Roy never knew who his real parents were so all documentation has Charlotte and Matthew as the parents.  Or is this a lost cause?
cheers
Meggles
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Re: help needed with a nsw birth please
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 01 January 14 03:26 GMT (UK) »
ROY CHAMBERLAIN FATHER WALTER MOTHER CHARLOTTE AT GRANVILLE REF# 30848/1898

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Re: help needed with a nsw birth please
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 01 January 14 04:19 GMT (UK) »
Possible marriage:
CHAMBERLAIN  WALTER  CHAMBERS  CHARLOTTE  NEWTOWN  Ref#2517/1882 

Several Walter marriages, but only this one to a Charlotte.

Might not be of use, but you never know.

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Re: help needed with a nsw birth please
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 01 January 14 05:50 GMT (UK) »
ROY CHAMBERLAIN FATHER WALTER MOTHER CHARLOTTE AT GRANVILLE REF# 30848/1898

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Death of above child :   :(

1898

CHAMBERLAIN - Roy
F.   Walter
M.  Charlotte

Registered at Granville, NSW


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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 01 January 14 06:35 GMT (UK) »
I see had seen the Registered death of A Roy Chamberlain in 1898 and wondered if there could be a mistake?

There are three marriages of Charlotte CHAMBERLAINS. AC
HENRY A BURTON TO CHARLOTTE E CHAMBERLAIN AT WOOLLAHRA REF# 3158/1885
MATTHEW ELLIOTT TO CHARLOTTE A CHAMBERLAIN AT BERRY REF# 2451/1890
AND ALSO
FREDERICK J STEBBING TO CHARLOTTE E CHAMBERLAIN AT SYDNEY REF# 8264/1901
I Don't know which one is correct but suspect Matthew Elliot
I also don't know if any of the above Charlotte's are related/Same person

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Re: help needed with a nsw birth please
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 01 January 14 06:44 GMT (UK) »
I can't find the birth of a Roy with mother Jessie either. Perhaps he was registered with a different given name.   

Jessie M CHAMBERLAIN had two illegitimate children in 1904 and 1907 who died as infants, so did she have another in 1912 or did she marry in the same district as her sister?

10071/1907    
DAVIS George H
CHAMBERLAIN Jessie M
District Berry

2711/1919    
MOGLER Samuel S
CHAMBERLAIN Jessie M
District Berry

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Re: help needed with a nsw birth please
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 01 January 14 07:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi Everyone
the Roy Chamberlain born in 1898 is not mine,  my Roy was Born 1912.  I had been hoping that I was going to find him as a Chamberlain for his birth but no luck, I have also tried all the names of the married sisters as well.
I guess it is possible that he had a completely different name at birth and when Charlotte and Mathew took him in they changed his name - but wouldn't there be some record of this?  Roy received the pension so would he have not needed a birth Certificate for this?
I will keep digging, thank you so much for your help
cheers
Megan
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Re: help needed with a nsw birth please
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 01 January 14 07:40 GMT (UK) »


WW2 enlistment
ELLIOTT ROY : Service Number - N237796 : DOB - 29 Jul 1912 : POB - SYDNEY NSW

Place of enlistment - ARNCLIFFE NSW : Next of Kin - MEGLER JESSIE

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Re: help needed with a nsw birth please
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 01 January 14 07:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi Cando
You have caught something I totally missed.  Jessie M Chamberlain getting married in 1907.  This has to be my Jessie as it was the only Chamberlain family in Berry - but why did she marry as a Chamberlain in 1907 and then marry in 1919 also as a Chamberlain (the marriage to the Mogler is the only one I ever knew and I know her children from this marriage)
I will order the certificate straight away - this could help solve the mystery because I am sure Roy is Jessie's child
thank you thank you
cheers megan
Harris - Denbury Devon
Wotton - Ideford Devon
Chamberlain - Kent
Burgess - Sussex
Savage - South Australia
Wilks - South Australia
Horrigan - South Australia
Hodgson - Lancashire
Martin - St Stithians, Cornwall
Mathers - Liverpool
Riley/Royle - Lancashire