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Re: help needed with a nsw birth please
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 01 January 14 07:49 GMT (UK) »
Could be him
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GEORGE H DAVIS, FATHER  JOHN, MOTHER ADELAIDE, AT SYDNEY  REF  8664/1911 

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Re: help needed with a nsw birth please
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 01 January 14 07:55 GMT (UK) »
Do you know of a Hilda and a Constance Chamberlain with mother Jessie M

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Re: help needed with a nsw birth please
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 01 January 14 08:08 GMT (UK) »
I do thank you - I have their death certificates.  I have collected as much as possible to see if I can find the connection to Roy.  I really feel that the next step should be to get the marriage certificate of the George Davis to Jessie Chamberlain to confirm that it is my Jessie.  If George died in 1911 and Jessie was already pregnant with Roy this could explain why she gave Roy to her sister - but I still need to find the Birth registration of Roy.  I am going to try under a few different spellings and see how I go.
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Re: help needed with a nsw birth please
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 01 January 14 08:53 GMT (UK) »
Have you checked this fellow out. :o

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ROY HEGGEN FATHER FREDERICK, MOTHER JESSIE M, AT BALMAIN SOUTH REF#13642/1912
Could be just a red herring, but :o
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Re: help needed with a nsw birth please
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 01 January 14 09:36 GMT (UK) »
The G.H. who died in 1911 appears to have been George Henry Davis, aged 55, director of Hoffnung & Co; he married Katie Victoria Eugenie Lydia (nee Davis) in 1884 in Brisbane.  His wife died in 1942.

It is possible that she was not widowed but that something else happened with her George to cause her to revert to her maiden name.  If you or a relative have a copy of the 1919 certificate it would be good to know how she is listed - divorced, "spinster", etc.

This newspaper report of the 1907 marriage gives him only as Mr Geo Davis, of Sydney:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/114352217
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Re: help needed with a nsw birth please
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 01 January 14 11:55 GMT (UK) »
Mmm  ... just a bit of a longshot ... and 1911 (rather than 1912).   ;D

Birth NSW

31826 / 1911

DAVIS - Roy
Parents:   George and May
Registered:  Paddington

[Jessie's death notice gives her second name as "May" (might she have used this name to register a birth if she was maybe estranged from her husband George ? )    Noticed too that Jessie's 1904 daughter's birth was registered at Paddington ? ]   :-\

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Re: help needed with a nsw birth please
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 01 January 14 12:13 GMT (UK) »
May I please be a tad pedantic on this occasion.

It is simply NOT possible to determine from the NSW BDM index if the death in NSW is for a person whose birth registration is also found on the NSW BDM index.  The indexes for both birth and death list the given names (of deceased and of deceased's parents) as supplied by the informant/s.   The NSW BDM district does not need to be the same geographical boundaries as the Municipal boundaries.  So, Granville emcompasses a larger area than just the suburb. 

It may well be the 1898 death is for an infant, BUT the NSW BDM index does not give any clues to confirm or eliminate that.  It is simply speculation without a certificate/official transcription or at least a headstone transcription or funeral/death notice from the newspapers, or a family member having kept a funeral card.

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ROY CHAMBERLAIN FATHER WALTER MOTHER CHARLOTTE AT GRANVILLE REF# 30848/1898

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Death of above child :   :(

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CHAMBERLAIN - Roy
F.   Walter
M.  Charlotte

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Re: help needed with a nsw birth please
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 01 January 14 12:36 GMT (UK) »
Could be him
Death
GEORGE H DAVIS, FATHER  JOHN, MOTHER ADELAIDE, AT SYDNEY  REF  8664/1911 
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The G.H. who died in 1911 appears to have been George Henry Davis, aged 55, director of Hoffnung & Co; he married Katie Victoria Eugenie Lydia (nee Davis) in 1884 in Brisbane.  His wife died in 1942.

George H. DAVIS death notice SMH 24th Aug 1911 ... "beloved husband of Kate"
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article15268579

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Re: help needed with a nsw birth please
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 01 January 14 21:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi Everyone - thank you again for all your ideas.
I think that I need to wait for the marriage certificates for both of Jessie M Chamberlain's marriages before I can confirm a few things.
1. the parents names  of George H Davis (then I should be able to track him down and see what happened to him.
2. what Jessie had as her status on her 1919 marriage - she married a Jew so I thought that this could be something to do with why she converted back to her maiden name (wild guess so far)
3. in 1907 when George and Jessie married, Jessie had a child out of wedlock in June of 1907 and the baby died in july 1907 - in these records there is no mention of George at all. 
The bad news if the the transcription service i use (which takes 1-3 days) is on holidays until the 20th of Jan, so I have a bit of a wait.  I thought of using a diffrent one but they all seem to have a 3-4 week wait on delivery.
I will keep you all posted.
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Mathers - Liverpool
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