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Re: Mold Parish Records Lookup (please!!)
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 09 January 14 10:40 GMT (UK) »
This is very odd if they were C of E, as I'm not finding anything on John and Mary's children's baptisms. Nothing on FreeReg either.  I see that Mary is down as 'not born County' in 1841.
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« Reply #10 on: Thursday 09 January 14 11:05 GMT (UK) »
Sorry to be devil's advocate but how sure are you that Elizabeth was the daughter of John and Mary and her surname was Williams? If the information is from the 1841 census, then this does not give relationships. I've seen many cases where the people living in the same household weren't related in the way expected.

Do you have any birth certs of the Forsyth children born after 1837 that would give mother's maiden name?


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Re: Mold Parish Records Lookup (please!!)
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 09 January 14 11:58 GMT (UK) »
Gadget, you say you've not found anything on John and Mary's children's baptisms, but Deidre (above) found Elizabeth's baptism to them in 1813.

"Sorry to be devil's advocate but how sure are you that Elizabeth was the daughter of John and Mary and her surname was Williams?"

Good question! I don't have access to my notes at the moment, and this was an area I reached several years ago. If memory serves (and this link details how I got here -  then it was through finding Thomas with his Mum in the 1851 census, and spying the birthplace as Mold for the first time.

1851:
Elizabeth age 38 widow born North Wales Mold
Thomas son age 16 born North Wales Mold
William son age 10 born Liverpool
Elizabeth dau age 8 born Liverpool

But there was nothing for them in 1841 until the Mold entry was found, placing him with John and Mary Williams. A check of Elizabeth's son's William Forsyth's birth certificate showed that 'Williams' was indeed the mother's maiden name. Finally, Deidre's confirmation of the baptism of Elizabeth to John and Mary confirms what I had long suspected.

Wow, that was more difficult to justify than I'd expected!

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Re: Mold Parish Records Lookup (please!!)
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 09 January 14 12:27 GMT (UK) »
Thomas Forsyth/Elizabeth Williams marriage-1833 Liverpool St Davids(can't provide further details).

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Re: Mold Parish Records Lookup (please!!)
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 09 January 14 12:42 GMT (UK) »
Wow, thanks Despair! (an odd sounding sentence!)

Liverpool St. David records are as yet untranscribed on the Lancs Parish Records free site unfortunately, so that 1833 reference will have to do me for now. Is that on Find My Past, then? I note that the LDS site (http://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Liverpool_St_David,_Lancashire) states that the first five years of St. David's records (up to 1832) are available for free, which is somewhat frustrating!

If I were to sign up to whichever site has the full record, what else would I be learning of the marriage? Parents' names?

Many thanks for this!
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Re: Mold Parish Records Lookup (please!!)
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 09 January 14 14:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi Stephen

I missed Deidre's second post - only saw the first one. Will see what it says on the image*.  I think that one of the Lancashire members might be able to help with the marriage - will send a message to a couple of them to see if they can find more info.


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* would you believe that it was the only record that I didn't look at - it doesn't give much info, though  :-\
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Re: Mold Parish Records Lookup (please!!)
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 09 January 14 14:54 GMT (UK) »
Marriage is 6th April 1833. Both 'of the parish' . Both signed. Witnesses John Mackay and John Jones


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Re: Mold Parish Records Lookup (please!!)
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 09 January 14 15:06 GMT (UK) »
Gadget,

  Huge thanks for the info. Shame there's nothing of any huge detail there, but much appreciated re: getting the date cemented. I would imagine that the use of St. David's church is the reason I've not yet found any baptisms for their children who were born after Thomas.

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Re: Mold Parish Records Lookup (please!!)
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 09 January 14 15:07 GMT (UK) »
I've found a Mary Ellen in 1840, St Peter. Thomas is given as a labourer though - do you think it's them?
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