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Re: Tillicoultry Census 1851 - Francis Sharp aged 7
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 21 January 14 13:37 GMT (UK) »
I did think about a possible second marriage...however, I couldn;t see the following children in 1851 in my listing  :-\

Peter 1835 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XBKJ-TF8
Janet 1837 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XBKX-XG9
Helen 1839 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XBK6-BJV  ...confused about this and next one for 1839
Peter 1839 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XBKJ-TFX
James 1841 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XBKK-9QT

These names don't match the 1851 entry do they  :-\

Monica

May be the reason why the anomaly on the two 1839 births with only a few months apart? The Peter b. 1839 belonged to the younger couple?

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Re: Tillicoultry Census 1851 - Francis Sharp aged 7
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 21 January 14 13:51 GMT (UK) »
Moving on 10yrs with the younger couple, still in Lanarkshire for 1851:

Peter Sharp 36 miner b. Clackmannanshire
Helen Hunter 30 b. Clackmannanshire
David Sharp 9 b. Airdrie, Lanarkshire
Luke Sharp 7 b. Airdrie, Lanarkshire
William Sharp 3 b. Airdrie, Lanarkshire
Ann Sharp 4 Months b. Airdrie, Lanarkshire
James Hunter 19 lodger miner b. Clackmannanshire
Christina Anderson 62 lodger Pauper On The Parish 4 A Month b. Clackmannanshire

Address:Clark St 60, New Monkland

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Added: If Christina Anderson was actually mother in law, and Helen was shaving off a few years, this may be her entry https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XBKQ-49Y. David looks to have been second born son to this couple, so could fit.
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Re: Tillicoultry Census 1851 - Francis Sharp aged 7
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 21 January 14 14:47 GMT (UK) »
Janet Paterson Sharp bn 1837 Clackmannan is one of 'mine' she married Andrew Harrower in 1859 in Clackmannan but had Helen Hunter/Sharp/Gillespie with her when Helen died in 1887 at Auchterderran Fife (Andrew was the informant on her DC)
Ireland, Co Antrim: Kerr; Hollinger; Forsythe; Moore
Ireland, Co Louth: Carson; Leslie
Ireland, Co Kerry: Ferris
Scotland, Perthshire/Glasgow:  Stewart
England, Devon/Cornwall: Ferris, Gasser/Jasser/Jesser, Norman

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Re: Tillicoultry Census 1851 - Francis Sharp aged 7
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 21 January 14 17:07 GMT (UK) »
Let's leave the Monkland/Clackmannanshire crew aside for now, or it will get (more) confusing  :P

Regarding your couple, what were Helen's parents' names from her 1887 death entry? Have you made guesses on husband Peter's parents? I see some people have a Peter and Celia (cecilia) as parents for him...not convinced  :-\ I would be looking at Elizabeth Paterson for mother, father Peter.

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Re: Tillicoultry Census 1851 - Francis Sharp aged 7
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 22 January 14 15:42 GMT (UK) »
Cecelia too young I think Peter and Cecelia didn't marry until 1811. 

Definitely Peter for father I reckon and either Mary[?] or Elizabeth.  Questionable child Mary to Peter and Helen.

Helen Hunter's parents were Thomas and Helen (Paterson) Hunter.
Ireland, Co Antrim: Kerr; Hollinger; Forsythe; Moore
Ireland, Co Louth: Carson; Leslie
Ireland, Co Kerry: Ferris
Scotland, Perthshire/Glasgow:  Stewart
England, Devon/Cornwall: Ferris, Gasser/Jasser/Jesser, Norman

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Re: Tillicoultry Census 1851 - Francis Sharp aged 7
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 22 January 14 15:49 GMT (UK) »
Peter Sharp and Elizabeth Paterson had a son Peter bn 4th Feb 1803 which looks good for my Peter.
Ireland, Co Antrim: Kerr; Hollinger; Forsythe; Moore
Ireland, Co Louth: Carson; Leslie
Ireland, Co Kerry: Ferris
Scotland, Perthshire/Glasgow:  Stewart
England, Devon/Cornwall: Ferris, Gasser/Jasser/Jesser, Norman

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Re: Tillicoultry Census 1851 - Francis Sharp aged 7
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 22 January 14 16:03 GMT (UK) »
That's the one I was looking at yesterday https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XBKF-23P

Thought it was a better fit all round too.

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Re: Tillicoultry Census 1851 - Francis Sharp aged 7
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 22 January 14 17:37 GMT (UK) »
I think I'm going to have to consider religion because I can't find much on Thomas/Helen Hunter.  Also if I remember rightly Peter/Cecelia were LDS and went off to Utah eventually.  There was a large group of LDS in Clackmannan.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Sharp_%28Mormon%29
Ireland, Co Antrim: Kerr; Hollinger; Forsythe; Moore
Ireland, Co Louth: Carson; Leslie
Ireland, Co Kerry: Ferris
Scotland, Perthshire/Glasgow:  Stewart
England, Devon/Cornwall: Ferris, Gasser/Jasser/Jesser, Norman