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John Dodgson - Kirkby Lonsdale/Casterton
« on: Thursday 06 February 14 07:57 GMT (UK) »
Trying to find details for a John Dodgson.  The only confirmed detail I have is that he married Mary Bailey/Bayley/Baylie (1802-1875) in Kirkby Lonsdale on 28 February 1829.

Mary Dodgson is living with a Thomas Dodgson (aged approx 90) in Casterton at the 1841 census (John's father?) then she's a widow at 1851 census.

I have been unable to confirm a birth date, death date or anything else!

If anyone has access to the marriage register, or other information, it would be very much appreciated.
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Re: John Dodgson - Kirkby Lonsdale/Casterton
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 06 February 14 20:22 GMT (UK) »
a son John christened at Casterton 12 feb 1837

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Re: John Dodgson - Kirkby Lonsdale/Casterton
« Reply #2 on: Friday 07 February 14 00:10 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Fellsman.  This certainly looks like it could be my John and Mary Dodgson.  Little John didn't appear in any census, so if he is one of theirs, it seems he didn't survive for long.

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Re: John Dodgson - Kirkby Lonsdale/Casterton
« Reply #3 on: Friday 07 February 14 12:30 GMT (UK) »
JOHN Dodgson Christened 3 October 1790,Kirkby-Lonsdale, Westmoreland
Parents THO/ELIZABETH
(Source Familysearch.Org)
This would make John 39 when he married in 1829 but he may have been married before.

There is a Death Reg for a John Dodgson, June 1839, Kendal, 25 324


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Re: John Dodgson - Kirkby Lonsdale/Casterton
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 08 February 14 21:20 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Trish.  That could be my John.  John and Mary named one of their daughters Elizabeth (Betty) so that might fit.

What I'd really like is a copy of John and Mary's marriage registration!

Thanks.
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Re: John Dodgson - Kirkby Lonsdale/Casterton
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 09 February 14 11:01 GMT (UK) »
There will only be a Parish Record of a 1829 Marriage as it was before civil reg of Marriages began Sept 1837.
On these civil regs of Marriages Fathers names/occps's were noted.

The Parish record will only have Witnesses who may or may not be related to the people Marrying.

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Re: John Dodgson - Kirkby Lonsdale/Casterton
« Reply #6 on: Monday 10 February 14 07:34 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Trish.  Looks like I may never find out any more about John Dodgson.  He's not critical, but I'd hoped he might lead me to some others in his family to explain some later developments including a move away from Casterton/Kirkby Lonsdale in the late 1870s.

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Fleur
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Re: John Dodgson - Kirkby Lonsdale/Casterton
« Reply #7 on: Friday 14 February 14 00:18 GMT (UK) »
This is what I could glean with a quick look through the online newspapers that I could find. His death appears, as well as the death of his son, John. However, his marriage did not appear in the search results for 1828-1830. I just included any mentions of a Dodgson in Casterton. Perhaps you'll find his father (Rowland, maybe)? Hope this helps.

Westmorland Gazette, Saturday, 24 Jul 1830
MARRIAGES
On Saturday last, at Sedbergh, Mr. John Dodgson to Miss Betty Taylor.

Kendal  Mercury, Saturday, 01 Jun 1839, page 3
At Casterton, on Wednesday week, very suddenly, Mr. John Dodgson, in the prime of life.

Kendal Mercury, Saturday, 16 Nov 1839, page 3
On Wednesday last, in Highgate, Elizabeth, second daughter of the late John Ddogson, Esq., aged 7 years.

Carlisle Journal, Saturday, 13 Jul 1844
At Kendal, on Friday last, aged 21 years, Roger, son of Mr. Dodgson, of Casterton.

Westmorland Gazette, Saturday, 06 Jul 1844
Yesterday, in Finkle-street, aged 21 years, Roger, son of Mr. Dodgson, of Casterton. Deceased died from the bursting of a blood-vessel in his head.

Westmorland Gazette, Saturday, 09 Mar 1833
At Casterton Fell Gate, Thursday se'nnight, Mr. James Dodgson, aged 24.

Kendal Mercury, 26 Jul 1845
DIED
At Casterton, near Lonsdale, Saturday night last, Mr. Rowland Dodgson, aged 66.

Westmorland Gazette, Saturday, 19 Nov 1853
DIED
On Friday last, at Fell Yeat, near Casterton, John, son of Mr. William Dodgson, aged 38 years.


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Re: John Dodgson - Kirkby Lonsdale/Casterton
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 09 April 14 11:12 BST (UK) »
Hi Telinlethaed

Thanks so much for your detailed reply.  My apologies for the delay in responding.  Unfortunately, though I've found lots of info about the Dodgsons of Casterton/Kirkby Lonsdale, I haven't been able to make the connections.

I think for example my Thomas Dodgson (father of John) is a brother of William Dodgson (1775-1865) but I've been unable to make the connection or find any details of either of their parents.

I'll have to continue to trawl for more details.

Regards
Bayley family of Westmorland (Casterton/Kirkby Lonsdale) and Lancashire (Barton, Birkdale) during the period 1750 - 1911.
Willan family of Westmorland and Lancashire.
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