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Re: John Paterson Hogg (1859-1933) and Dorothy Phillips (?-?)
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 13 May 17 16:01 BST (UK) »
Well, the certificate has arrived. Born 26 January 1900, James Augustus Phillips, son of John Paterson, boarding house keeper, and Dorothy Paterson, formerly Phillips. They took a long time to register the birth - on 8 March. So I am in no doubt that it's them, but why were they calling themselves Paterson? And why was John Paterson Hogg, solicitor from Larbert, running a boarding house in Scarborough?
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Re: John Paterson Hogg (1859-1933) and Dorothy Phillips (?-?)
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 13 May 17 18:49 BST (UK) »
I wonder if this has any relevance?
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Re: John Paterson Hogg (1859-1933) and Dorothy Phillips (?-?)
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 13 May 17 19:07 BST (UK) »
Also from Glasgow Herald 20/10/1894 List of Scotch Bankrupts.
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Re: John Paterson Hogg (1859-1933) and Dorothy Phillips (?-?)
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 13 May 17 19:22 BST (UK) »
Therefore is a report of the sequestration proceedings in Glasgow Herald 16 Nov 1894 page 4, which gives a lot of background info. You should be able to view this via google newspapers
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Re: John Paterson Hogg (1859-1933) and Dorothy Phillips (?-?)
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 13 May 17 20:57 BST (UK) »
Wow! Thank you, That is very convincing. His obituary in 'The Scotsman' makes no hint of that.
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Re: John Paterson Hogg (1859-1933) and Dorothy Phillips (?-?)
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 14 May 17 21:48 BST (UK) »
Interesting again. The warrant for the arrest of John Hogg on the forgery charge was issued in January 1895, according to another article in the Glasgow Herald. This could certainly account for him being in Scarborough under an assumed name in 1900, but in that case why did he return to Glasgow where he was arrested in 1907?

Try as I will, I cannot find them in 1901 in Scotland, England, Wales or Ireland ???
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Re: John Paterson Hogg (1859-1933) and Dorothy Phillips (?-?)
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 14 May 17 22:31 BST (UK) »
In his position he was probably hiding behind the curtains with the lights out  ::)  ;D

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Re: John Paterson Hogg (1859-1933) and Dorothy Phillips (?-?)
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 14 May 17 22:56 BST (UK) »
What a great find by Isobel W and very interesting developments!

If you have not come across it in the newspaper archive The Falkirk Herald 27 April 1907 is worth looking at as there is some detail. " He did not know the nature of the charge preferred against him until the indictment for the present trial had been served against him". He denied that James Potter, a prosecution witness who stated that he saw him forging the signature, was ever in his employment Another witness, George Ryall, "related a conversation which he alleged had taken place between Potter and himself,in the course of which Potter had said  that Hogg had not adhibited Luke's  signature but that he (Potter) knew who had forged it. The jury by a majority returned a verdict of not guilty".

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Re: John Paterson Hogg (1859-1933) and Dorothy Phillips (?-?)
« Reply #26 on: Monday 15 May 17 09:15 BST (UK) »
Thanks, William. I have found quite a lot of articles in the Glasgow Herald, but not, so far, any account of the court case or anything in any other newspaper.

.... I can't get into the BNA this morning. Does the article in the Falkirk Herald say what the date of the trial was? If so I can look for a report in the Glasgow Herald.
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