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Tobias and Elizabeth Stapleton(nee Gunn) in Victoria
« on: Sunday 09 February 14 03:38 GMT (UK) »
Looking for a Marriage Please of a Tobias Stapleton and Elizabeth Gunn...Havent found it so far in aus, Had a Child Elizabeth Stapleton born 1849 In Victoria, cant find any other children to Tobias and Elizabeth...Nor can i find a death for tobias and elizabeth (nee gun) Elizabeth Stapleton Married Henry Kay in 1867 in Collingwood Vic..Thankyou for any help on this one:)
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Re: Tobias and Elizabeth Stapleton(nee Gunn) in Victoria
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 09 February 14 04:01 GMT (UK) »


What information is on the marriage certificate 1867 please. Elizabeth would be 17 years old, so witnesses might be close relatives.......someone might have to give permission for her to marry.


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Re: Tobias and Elizabeth Stapleton(nee Gunn) in Victoria
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 09 February 14 04:37 GMT (UK) »
You are seeking records prior to civil registration in Victoria.  You have quoted a birth in 1849 however this is a parish record of a baptism which has been transcribed twice to the Victorian Registry

STAPLETON Elizabeth
Father Tobias  Mother Elizabeth
At Melbourne  1849  Reg#4001
Denomination Roman Catholic  Parish St Francis Melbourne Fiche#45

STAPLETON Elizabeth
Father Tobias  Mother Elizabeth GUNN
At Melbourne  1849  Reg#42743 
Denomination Roman Catholic  Parish St Francis Melbourne Fiche#580

If Elizabeth GUNN died prior to the introduction of civil registration and if there was no parish record of her burial there will be nothing on the Victorian BDM index.

I wonder if Tobias married again :-\  Not a commonly occurring name.

STAPLETON Tobias Francis born Ireland
KENNEDY Eliza
1869  Reg#3054

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Re: Tobias and Elizabeth Stapleton(nee Gunn) in Victoria
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 09 February 14 04:41 GMT (UK) »
Death in NSW
3915/1902
STAPLETON Tobias F
Father Tobias  Mother Jane
District Sydney

All speculative...you need some certificates.

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Re: Tobias and Elizabeth Stapleton(nee Gunn) in Victoria
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 09 February 14 05:26 GMT (UK) »
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Looking for a Marriage Please of a Tobias Stapleton and Elizabeth Gunn

I would suggest they married in Ireland.  There is no marriage on freebdm.

STAPLETON Tobias, Eliza
Passenger lists   23 Jan 1849 Melbourne
Ship  ALICE MAUD
Steerage, departed London/Lands End 5 Oct 1848

STAPLETON Tobias
Rate Book 1868, 1869, 1870, 1872
Richmond, Victoria
City of Richmond Rate Ledgers 1857-1881.
1868 6 Catherine Street, Richmond. Occupation Blacksmith. Occupier. Land.
1869 8 Catherine Street   Vacant Land
1870, 71, 72  Little Elizabeth Street   Hut 1 room.

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Re: Tobias and Elizabeth Stapleton(nee Gunn) in Victoria
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 09 February 14 05:47 GMT (UK) »
The Argus  26 Jan 1849

SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE -
Arrived
January 23.—Alice Maud, barque, 464 tons D. Williams, master, from London 5th October, and Lands End 13th. Passengers, cabin—Mr and Ms. Baker, Mr. and Mrs. Richmond Messrs. Simpson, Crawford, and Thompson. Intermediate—Mrs. Langley and six children. Messrs. John White, G. B. James, W. Steigenberger.
Steerage—Joseph Wilson, James Storey, Tobias, Eliza, Tobias Johanna, and Jane Stapleton ; Edward Powell, John Dixon, E. J. Dixon, W. H. Norman, James Hall, David and Mary Lyster, A. G. Dennis, George Wilson, Thomas Robertshaw; John, Mary, Elizabeth, and Susan Semple ; Charles, Susan. George, Jane, Matilda, Susan, Charles, and William H. Collier; C. H. Reynolds; George, Arabelia, Ellen, and George Lennox; Edwin and Isaac Darke; Simon, Eli- zabeth, James, Edward, Jane, Mary, and Eliza- beth White; George Vyse, Jacob Ford, Thomas Conner, Jane M'Sweeney, Joseph Adams; John, Elizabeth, Henry, Alfred, Noah, William, John, and James Picker; Robert Horcon, James Bowers, and Duncan Monro. Agent, W. and H. Barnes and Co.

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Re: Tobias and Elizabeth Stapleton(nee Gunn) in Victoria
« Reply #6 on: Monday 10 February 14 08:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi Cando:)
Thanks for all that.info.Yes I Think this Stapleton Lot from Ireland...But need Proof
And yes will mention re getting certs to a friend who has this lot...Agree best way to go
Cheers
Cathy:)
Ireland...Direct Lines
Down..Clendinnen
Clare..Haren, Ryan
Kerry...Doody
Tipperary...Morrisey
Wexford...Clendinnen, Steele, Ellis
Roscommon...Carley, Fallon

France...D'Acre, Went to Ireland some Changed to DEAKER

England Direct Lines
Norfolk: Clamp, Chesney, Atkins, streek
Essex: Mountford, Cornell, Philpott, Hawkes
Wiltshire: Stone, Annetts,

Watt, Toombs, Greville, Revell , Hindmarsh, Williams, Chivell, Collocott, Carle, Bayliss, Berry, Dewsbury, Dungey, Edwards, Gray, Haughton

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Re: Re: Tobias and Elizabeth Stapleton(nee Gunn) in Victoria
« Reply #7 on: Friday 07 March 14 12:16 GMT (UK) »
TROVE has this death notice:
Tobias STAPLETON, d May 1856
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/4838913

Judith
DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
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Re: Tobias and Elizabeth Stapleton(nee Gunn) in Victoria
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 08 March 14 12:54 GMT (UK) »
Post with death reg has disappeared with the new request which has been moved here http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=680113.0

Mistranscribed death registration
STABLETON Tobias
Father James  Mother Johanna BURKE
1856 40 years  Born Tipperary Reg#1910

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