PYE, Bredgar

[meggylux]

Hello

Please can anyone help with parish records for Bredgar in Kent.

I  am descended from Thomas Pye (1) of Newlands Farm Charing Kent 1787-1833. I have details for him and his family and am now looking at the next generation of his Ancestors. In his will he cites his brother, executor as Henry

I believe his parents were Thomas Pye (2) 1753-1824 and Jane nee Hudson of Bredgar who I believe may have lived at Butters Manor. They had 10 or 11 children including a Thomas and Henry.

Now I am looking for Thomas Pye (2) parentage.  A Bredgar baptism record for a Thomas Pye  in 1853 has parents named Thomas Pye (3) and Susan (Susannah). Whilst Ancestry trees indicate Admiral Sir Thomas PYE (4) 1713  (Farringdon Bucks or Berks) -1785 (London), however I am yet to be confident in suggesting this is so.

From a preliminary search of TP (4),  peerage records indicate one legitimate daughter, but biographies suggest he had illegitimate children with his long time mistress, so he may have recognised them. From the will of Thomas Pye (1) there certainly was money in the family.

But the thing that is niggling at me is that I have found on FindMyPast a baptism record for a Thomas Pye (5) baptised in 1699 but FindMyPast does not indicate any further Pye records for this parish.

So my query is, is there anybody able to help me with any further records of any Pye families in Bredgar for Thomas (3) and Susan and before. Unfortunately there does not appear to be an OPC for Bredgar.

I hope this makes sense, sadly this is a family of repeated naming patterns. Many thanks for your time.

[bearkat]

Have you investigated this will?

Pye     Thomas     Bredgar                   1783 1786    PRC17/101/183a     PRC16/461 P/5

http://www.kentarchaeology.ac/ekwills_a/series/ekp_p2/ekp_p2n_pik.htm

[meggylux]

No Thank you for that, I will investigate sourcing that one, it could be a big help.

[BettyofKent]

Thomas PYE baptisms in Bredgar (1540-1915)

1827 9th Feb  son of James & Frances.  Notes: Bredgar (Farmer)

1787 9th Jan  son of Thomas & Jane?

1753 9th Sept  son of Thomas & Susan

1699 ? ? Thomas?  son of Thomas & Martha  Notes: Bapt?

Only one Henry, 1836 Dec 18th, son of James & Frances,  Bredgar (Farmer)


Betty

[BettyofKent]

Bredgar Marriages 1540-1836
Only 4 for PYE men

1770 Dec 23rd By Banns
John PYE Ba otp
Ann WALKER Sp otp 
Witnesses: Peter Read  Batcheler Hunt

1775 June 3rd By Banns
John PYE Ba otp
Abigail FOWLE Sp otp B
Witnesses: Stephen Hind  Thomas Fowle

1825 Mar 2nd By Licence
George PYE Ba Tp
Maria WOOD Sp Tp 
Witnesses: George Wood  Harriett Gran..?

1826 Jan 11th  By Licence
James PYE Ba Tp
Frances WYLES Sp Borden
Witnesses: Thomas Wyles  Henry Pye

One PYE bride
1814 Aug 5th By Licence
Edward STROUTS Ba Linstead
Elizabeth PYE Sp Tp 
Witnesses: Richard Pye  Mary Pye


Betty

[bearkat]

I'll dig out the marriage licences to see if they can add any further details but I'm not at home at the moment - I'm actually very close to Newlands Farm!

[meggylux]

Thank you Betty and 'Bearcat' for your help.

It does look like there is a issing generation between 1699 and 1753, perhaps I need to check neighbouring parishes, although I think the will may be of help.

I cannot find the will on the TNA, so I will call Kent archives to see if they have a copy, unless anyone else may be able to suggest where I may find it.

The Thomas Pye born in Bredgar in 1827 would have been a nephew of my ancestor Thomas Pye the one born in 1787. His children were baptised in Charing.

[bearkat]

You can get a copy of the will from Kent Archives but they are not cheap. You can also order and view the microfilm at a local Family History centre.

[BettyofKent]

There are some early PYE baptism in Faversham, from 1624 to 1739, parents John & Tabitha, Robert & Phebe, Thomas & Ann, Thomas & Elizabeth, William/Willyam & Marie.

Any use


Betty