Ann Evans, Ragland

[LIsaac]

It could indeed be Henry yes. Its the right area... so what can I do now to confirm? Maybe baptism records for Raglan or Bryngwyn? I am not too sure of the next step....

[DORAN54]

I think the reg district might have been abergavenny? parish records possibly bryngwyn hopefully someone else will know for sure.

[DORAN54]

I can see a birth for an  ann evans 4thQ 1841 abergavenny vol 26 page 35  possible?

[mazi]

both raglan and trellerk had parish churches, both had non-conformist chapels also.

Monmouth is the registration district after 1837, raglan is a sub- district.

I do not know about census districts

you are quite close to the borders of Hereford, Brecon and gloucestrshire

[LIsaac]

So first step is to go to the registrars office in Abergavenny and check for birth certificate for an Ann Evans with father name of Henry Evans. And if no joy with that go to the churches in the area and see what their records are like?
Is there a search facility for the smaller parish records?

Why would her age jump around so much? On each of the census's that I have seen her on the only consistency is the 52 and 62 age she gives in 1891 and 1901. Prior to that her age varies ridiculously.... which makes it difficult to search for the Birth certificate.

[osprey]

well, I have a suggestion for you that has a couple of coincidences. This baptism from Raglan, to parents Henry & Kimbra which matches Ann's age on the 1891 & 1901 census entries.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JWMP-ZYC

Ann Warren is on the 1841 & 1851 census entries with her parents & then I lose her. There is a death registered in 1852 at Pontypool for an Ann Warren, but there's a burial in Gwernesney that matches and a census in 1851 to match that Ann.

So you have an Ann of the right age with father Henry (farmer in 1841 & 1851, ag lab in 1861), and mother Kimbra(h) (daughter she's living with in 1891 & 1901 called Kimbra(h), but giving her name as Evans not Warren. Does she give Evans as her maiden name on the birth certs of the children as well?

One way of searching the parish records that aren't online would be to go to the record office. Use Genuki to see which are the nearest parishes.

 

[DORAN54]

just come across a tree where her father  is named as henry warren

[LIsaac]

Well, Osprey that is interesting you find that record. I have notice the name Kimbrah is not that common, and naming her daughter and her granddaughter was also given the name is unusual.

I have only found Kimbrah Davies's birth certificate and Anns name is given as Ann Evans. IF she had been married previously, might she put Ann Evans rather than her maiden name?

[osprey]

on a birth cert, if she had been previously married, the names should have been shown as Davies, late Evans, formerly Warren. But the registration system is informant driven, so no checks would have been made, and you could say what you thought you could get away with. The birth certs of my greatgrandmother and her brother are given in the form as if their parents were married with the use of formerly, despite the births happening a couple of years before the marriage.