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Re: 1791 Census or Parish records?
« Reply #9 on: Monday 10 March 14 03:59 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much davidft. I appreciate the possible links that you have suggested and amazed you have uncovered so much information! It is more than I hoped for and now I have something to follow up with a cousin who is also interested in this line.

Perhaps the Hays and Nesbit families have come from Scotland since  Tweedmouth is so close to the border. I have not heard of the non-conformist register so thank you for mentioning that as well!

Gray
Thynne
Settle
Nussbaumer
Vonlanthen
Nilsen
Nelson
Pearson
Wakem
Wakeham

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Re: 1791 Census or Parish records?
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 15 March 14 10:07 GMT (UK) »
Can't see a baptism for Jane, but this could be Elizabeth at Etal Presbyterian:

Elizabeth Middlemass daughter of William and Margaret Middlemass of Grindonridge, was born September 17th 1801 and baptized by David Aitken Mnr.

Births and baptisms at the same at same Chapel, with same parents :

17 June 1793, Isabella Middlemass, of Grindonridge.
11 Feb 1795, George Middlemass, of Grindonridge.
20 Feb 1797, William Steward Middlemass, of Grindonridge
13 June 1799, Margaret Middlemass, of Grindonridge
5 Oct 1803, James Middlemass, of Grindonridge
13 Oct 1805, Andrew Middlemass, of Grindonridge
27 Feb 1807, John Middlemass, of Brankston
16 Feb 1808, Thomas Middlemass, of Brankston
28 Feb 1808, John Middlemis of Mareldown (same parents names as Thomas 12 days earlier? or is this a repeat of John born 27 Feb 1807, register jumps all over date wise)
16 March 1812, Ann Middlemiss

No more Middlemass baptisms at this Chapel after Ann until 1837.

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Durham - Rogerson, Child
Cumberland - Irving, Hill
Yorkshire - Layfield,
Ireland - Collins

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Re: 1791 Census or Parish records?
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 18 March 14 16:45 GMT (UK) »
Thank you WolfieSmith - I think my ancestor's are Middlemiss rather than Middlemass, but it's always interesting to read about names / people who are similar as they may be, in fact, the correct ancestor.

I am searching for William Gray as well, my G G Grandfather: This is all I have on him, other than the fact that he married Jane Middlemiss:

BIRTHDATE 1813
Ford, Northumberland
DEATH DATE 1889
Ford, Northumberland

In our family papers, there was mention of a place called Boscombe, but I can't seem to locate this town?
Thanks so much again!
Gray
Thynne
Settle
Nussbaumer
Vonlanthen
Nilsen
Nelson
Pearson
Wakem
Wakeham

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Re: 1791 Census or Parish records?
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 19 March 14 11:31 GMT (UK) »
Just curious but have you a Marriage Cert for William/Jane?
I cant seem to find a Marriage.
The Cert would help find Williams Fathers name/occp

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Re: 1791 Census or Parish records?
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 19 March 14 14:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi Trish1120, no, I'm afraid we don't have a marriage certificate for William and Jane, just the fact that they were married, and this was from a GedCom file from a cousin whom I've never met. If you can't find a marriage, could that mean they were married elsewhere?
Thank you so much for helping!
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Settle
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Vonlanthen
Nilsen
Nelson
Pearson
Wakem
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Re: 1791 Census or Parish records?
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 19 March 14 15:45 GMT (UK) »
William Gray in the 1851 Census - we assumed he was married to Jane Middlemiss, but I cannot find a marriage record either....I searched only Northumberland and through the years 1830-1860

1851 census for Ford

William Gray 38 labourer
Jane   33 b Branton
Robert   5
Margaret 4
Jane 1
HO107 Piece 2422 Folio 196 Page 35

In 1861 they had the following children plus sister in law

Elizabeth   9
Mary  7
Isabella   4
William   10 Months
Elizabeth Middlemiss 59 sister in law unmarried b Norham
RG9 Piece 3890 Folio 93 Page 8
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Nelson
Pearson
Wakem
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middlemiss
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 26 February 17 16:34 GMT (UK) »
there is a mary middlemiss born Branxton 1817
on the 1851 cenus at ford
her marriage 1841 at Coldstream just over the border in Scotland states her father William of Crookham which is near Branxton her husband Andrew Middlemiss was from Loanend
their children have the family names
info in
Irregular marriages recorded by the Berwick advertiser 1808 to 1864

The hays were mostly from Berwickshire Scotland having migrated from East Lothian over the centuries and there are middlemiss also in the same area