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PARKADE/PARKSIDE Lunatic Asylum
« on: Sunday 09 March 14 00:50 GMT (UK) »
Hello everyone
I found an article in Trove giving a return of persons who died in the Parkade Lunatic Asylum during the half year ended December 31, 1908.  I am interested in one of the names - Harriet BUTLER a 65.
Does anyone know if there are records available for this place?
TIA

ETA I think it should be Parkside not Parkade

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Re: PARKADE/PARKSIDE Lunatic Asylum
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 09 March 14 01:15 GMT (UK) »
The newspaper article does say 'Parkside'.

Debra  :)

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Re: PARKADE/PARKSIDE Lunatic Asylum
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 09 March 14 02:26 GMT (UK) »
Quite a good summary of the history of Parkside later re-named Glenside.
http://www.abc.net.au/local/photos/2011/05/11/3213910.htm

South Australian death certificates are scant on information.  In 1908 the information would be the following and would also depend on the knowledge of the informant

1908-1947
    Date and Place of Death
    Name
    Sex
    Age
    Occupation
    Usual Residence
    Birthplace
    Length of Residence in Commonwealth
    Age at Marriage
    Number of Issue Living and Deceased
    Cause of Death
    Place of Death
    Informant

Death registration
BUTLER Harriet  Marital status not known  Relative not recorded
16 Jul 1908
Residence Adelaide  Death Place Parkside   Nor H 334/445
The Symbol H indicates the deceased died in a hospital or place of care.

Coroner's Report 1900-191
0  Each volume covers a calender year and contains approximately 400 reports, general, in chronological order.  The source of information is the Public Record Office of South Australia [now known as State Records of South Australia - https://www.archives.sa.gov.au/]
Reference GRG 1/44 Coroner's Reports from the Police.

BUTLER Harriet  17 Jul 1908  65 years  Page 236.

Many entries have an entries in the comments column however it is blank for Harriet.

I am not sure of the legal procedures for deaths in institutions in South Australia however in Victoria it was usual for inquests to be held into deaths in public institutions.

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Re: PARKADE/PARKSIDE Lunatic Asylum
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 09 March 14 02:35 GMT (UK) »
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0yd4/
The South Australian Register 7 July 1891

POLICE COURTS
Monday 7 July
Harriet Butler and John O'Shea were referred to Dr. Mayo as pauper lunatics.

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Re: PARKADE/PARKSIDE Lunatic Asylum
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 09 March 14 03:10 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the replies and links.

I am a bit loathe to get the death printout (or transcription as they are in SA) - as you say they are very scant on information.  But I need somehow to prove this is the ancestor I am looking for.

Can you get copies of the coroners reports?  I am in NZ.

The reason this entry "feels" right is that it says "relatives are unknown or reside beyond the limits of the state" (so very unlikely the death printout will have hubby's name on it).  I have completely lost the second husband John Frederick BUTLER - they were married 1872 in Wallaroo.

Thanks

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Re: PARKADE/PARKSIDE Lunatic Asylum
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 09 March 14 04:17 GMT (UK) »
Quite frankly I wouldn't waste my money on a certificate or transcription.  No relative is named on the index.  There is no Print out as you have in NZ.  The information on the certificate is simply transcribed for a fee from
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=280572.msg1367795#msg1367795

SAGHS has been rebadged as SAGenealogy
http://www.genealogysa.org.au

Records of inquests dating between 1877 and 1930 in South Australia were authorised for destruction during WW2.  For these years the Police reports to the Coroner are often useful however there are no comments in Harriet's entry in my resource.

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Re: Harriet Butler and husband John Frederick Butler
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 16 October 18 05:37 BST (UK) »
Hi from New Zealand.
I have the following certificate transcriptions if you are interested in further information regarding Husband and wife: John Frederick BUTLER and Harriet BUTLER (nee CAMM nee GRAFTON)
Marriage certificate 1872, married Wallaroo, South Australia. John Frederick BUTLER is aged 29 years, Harriet is 30 years and is the widow of William CAMM
Death Harriet BUTLER 16 July 1908, Parkside Asylum of diarrhoea and hepatic disease, 3 weeks. Harriet aged 65 years, a resident of Adelaide
Birth of William John BUTLER in 1873, Wallaroo - son to Harriet and John Frederick
Marriage of William John BUTLER 7 August 1909 in Wellington New Zealand to his second wife Catherine Blair WOODS
Cremation of William John BUTLER August 1947 at Karori Cemetery, Wellington, New Zealand.
I am looking for information regarding John Frederick BUTLER. Do you have any?