Cumberlands

[Cumbey]

Thanks - I'll let you know what happens.

Meanwhile, I'm grappling with the puzzle of why two ancestors (great grandfather and great great grandfather Cumberland) changed their name to Ball, then back to Cumberland ... which accounts for their not being in the 1901 and 1871 censuses under the name Cumberland ...

Israel and James, in case you're interested ...

[chfl]

I have not pursued the Cumberlands much beyond the marriage of Mary in 1737, to Samuel Thurman a bit far from the Trunk of my tree !, so no knowledge of that at all
Chris

[CUcumber-land]

Hi all. I am searching into my Wysall Cumberland lineage. The earliest I have gotten to is William 1609-1643. + Josie Ragge 1613-1689.   Parents of John 1634-1703 (wife Margaret Hornbuckle 1634-1711).  Parents of John 1672-1722 (wife Elizabeth Keightley 1678- xxxx). Etc...

I have gotten to my first State side ancestor Thomas Cumberland (1744-1810) Born in Kegworth, Leicestershire' England.  Died in Dunbar, Fayetteville County, Pennsylvania.

Has anyone been able to locate prior to William of 1609-1643? Or know of his burial spot? I would assume his wife Josie having lived upwards of 45 yrs. after his death may have remarried but can't be sure.

[chfl]

In the first page of this post there is information to get you back a further generation, Thomas Cumberland and Elizabeth Watkin
I also have a reference still to be researched of a will at Notts Archives of Thomas Cumberland Yeoman of Wysall Date 4 Nov 1647
Their Reference is PR/NW 79  or maybe one of the other chatters here have already seen this.
It may give more information, or confirm something
Chtris

[nottsgirl1]

Hi,

I could have a look at the Will next time I'm in Nottingham Archives for you sometime over the next 2 weeks.

NG

[CUcumber-land]

  really?! that would be fantastic! I have seen wills linking back to Thomas Cumberland.  The son Thomas that is in my direct lineage was born in 1744 and it looks he is the only one to come to the US, however on census records in the US William lives with or next to him and are within a few years age of each other. So I would assume the two brothers made it to the US. Duane,Butler,PA.    Will link below.

http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/soc/faculty/roy/Report16/p3.htm

[nottsgirl1]

Hi,

No problem .  There are some more wills of Thomas's Cumberland of Wysall one in 1716 Admon and Bond and one Will in 1825 do you what me to look at those too.

NG

[CUcumber-land]

Absolutely! Anything will help. I'm hoping also to see wether my ancestor was sentenced to transportation lol I found one John Cumberland sentenced for stealing 134 yards of Callico and transferred to colony. But I'm not sure if he is any relation.

[chfl]

Hi Nottsgirl
Just got back to this, and I also would appreciate a look at the 1647 Will if you can.
I am unable to get there at present so anything of interest really useful
Chris