Help please, re child raised by Samuel & Anne Ward in Shrewsbury

[denyse_aus]

Hoping someone can tell me if Samuel Ward & wife Anne raised a child named Jessie Thomson/Thompson, illegitimate daughter of a Thomas Munro. (Thomas sent her to a military family in Shropshire to be raised & provided for her financially. I just don't know who the military family was but Jessie married Anne Ward nee Crewe's nephew)

Name: Samuel Ward
Birth: 1771
Death: 1831 at his residence, Abbey Foregate, Shrewsbury, Shropshire
Occupation:  Captain and Adjutant in the Shrewsbury and South Salopian Regiments of Yeomanry Cavalry
Marriage:25 Nov 1795 Birmingham, St Martin, Warwickshire, England
Spouse: Anne Crewe
Christen: 25 Sep 1775 St Chad's, Wybunbury
Death: 1841 at the house of her nephew, James Crewe, solicitor, of Prince Edwin Street, Everton, Liverpool
Father: Robert Crewe (1742-)
Mother: Ann Harding (1741-1819)

Notes for Samuel Ward
My 3xGt-Grandparents, Jessey Munro THOMPSON & James CREWE were both witnesses to the will of Samuel WARD on 3 Aug 1831, two years before Jessey & James married. No children named in the will. All went to wife, Ann Ward.
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"On the 27th ult., at the house of her nephew, Mr. James Crew, solicitor, of Prince Edwin-street, Everton, Ann, relict of the late Samuel Ward, Esq., of Shrewsbury, aged 67 years" Manchester Courier and Lancashire General Advertiser September 04, 1841
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"On Tuesday morning, in his 60th year, at his residence, Abbey Foregate, Shrewsbury, universally respected, Samuel Ward, Esq. 22 years captain and adjutant in the Shrewsbury and South Salopian Regiments of Yeomanry Cavalry" Staffordshire Advertiser August 20, 1831.
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Sorry this is so longwinded.
Denyse in Queensland

[garstonite]

Hiya Denyse ....you say James Crewe and Jessey Munro Thompson ??
these records state she was Jessey Munro SCOTT

Baptism: 9 Sep 1834 St Augustine, Everton, Lancashire, England
 Samuel Ward Scott - Son of James Crewe & Jessey Munro Scott
     Born: 9 Aug 1834
     Abode: Prince Edwin St
     Occupation: Solicitor
     Baptised by: T Tattershall, Minister
 
Baptism: 28 Apr 1836 St Augustine, Everton, Lancashire, England
 Mary Jessey Crewe - Daughter of James Crewe & Jessey Munro Scott
     Abode: Prince Edward St
     Occupation: Solicitor
     Baptised by: T Tattershall, Minister
     
Baptism: 13 Jan 1839 St Augustine, Everton, Lancashire, England
 James Richard Crewe - Son of James Crewe & Jessey Munro Scott
     Born: 2 May 1838
     Abode: 20 Prince Edwin Place
     Occupation: Attorney at Law
     Baptised by: W A Strange
 
go to www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
click
baptisms
crewe   father james    mother  jessey

[denyse_aus]

Hi Garstonite,

The Jessey you're looking at is the daughter of James Crewe & Jessie Munro Scott Thompson.

I'm trying to find out who raised Jessie Munro Scott Thompson/Thomson. She was born 1810 in Scotland & I've found a record that might be about her.

I need to know if Samuel Ward & Anne Ward nee Crewe raised her. If so, she was the illegitimate daughter of Thomas Munro & the mystery of her parentage will be solved.

Regards,
Denyse

[heywood]

Hi Denyse,

This is confusing 

Garstonite's post looks to refer to the same person but as Jessie Munro Scott - perhaps Scott  was her mother's name?
If she was born in 1810, then having children in 1830s would fit and of course they are named Crewe.
Jessel Munro Crew, daughter, was born 1839.
Is your Jessie Thompson or Scott?

Heywood

[heywood]

James Crewe and Jessie Munro Scott Thomson marriage 1833 Shrewsbury but in the baptism records,she is referred to as Scott.

Is this the reference to her father you have? http://www.oxforddnb.com/templates/article.jsp?articleid=19549&back=

It does look very promising. I see elsewhere that you have her on her daughter's records as Scott formerly Thompson. That would imply a previous marriage 

[garstonite]

yes Heywood - I am confused now ...
quote
My 3xGt-Grandparents, Jessey Munro THOMPSON & James CREWE were both witnesses to the will of Samuel WARD on 3 Aug 1831, two years before Jessey & James married.
                                                 .......................................................... so this IS Jessey and James having the children on my post from 1834
so ...how does Jessey Munro Thompson become Jessey Munro Scott ??...maybe this is the dilema that Denyse is referring to ??

[heywood]

The article refers to her as Jessie Thompson. I can't find it now but I thought I read that on a daughter's certificate - death? she  is Scott formerly Thompson.

Again from the article, Sir Thomas Munro died 1827 and left an annual sum to Jessie. I wonder if the will is available?

Yes, it is http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D201693

Perhaps that would say where Jessie was living.

[denyse_aus]

This is the most confusing line I've tried researching. It all began when I had Australian newspaper death & marriage notices of the grandchildren of James Crewe & Jessie Munro Scott/ Jessie Munro Scott Thomson. She was a spinster, Jessie Thomson, when she married James & in wedding notices in English newspapers. On their children's baptismal records her maiden name was Jessie Scott.

The notices mention their great-grandfather (father of the above Jessie) having been Gen. Sir Charles Munro, Bart. Ayrshire. I assumed the daughter of James & Jessie, Jessie Munro Crewe, who immigrated to Queensland in 1863, had invented an ancestry to get a social 'leg-up' in her new surroundings. The Australian notices didn't make sense because I thought if Jessie Munro Scott/Jessie Munro Thomson's father was Charles Munro she would have had his surname.

This week I've found an article that confirms the story but it was a Thomas Munro who was her father. She was illegitimate & he sent her to an army family in Shrewsbury, Shropshire to be raised & he acknowledged her in his will. This article states her name was Jessie Thomson See paragraph 11 at http://www.oxforddnb.com/templates/article.jsp?articleid=19549&back=

This morning I received a copy of Charles Munro's will & I can see where he's made a Jessie Scott one of his beneficiaries, but it doesn't tell me who he sent her to, to be raised, or when.

Denyse in Queensland

[heywood]

Hi Denyse,

Yes, that's the same article I quoted which is clear, then the will also confirms it. However, it is strange that she is Thompson in the article and Scott in the will 

Not sure if you will resolve this. Is there anything in Samuel Ward's will? Sorry, she was a witness wasn't she!

Heywood