Author Topic: James Doyle Children Vanishing Liverpool Colony of NSW  (Read 9508 times)

Offline robgen1

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 196
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: James Doyle Children Vanishing Liverpool Colony of NSW
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 29 March 14 04:42 GMT (UK) »
Hello Judb

Thank you also again for SMH details of 1894 and 1895

Regards
Greg
Roberts - Manningford - Wiltshire - United Kingdom
Gulley - Manningford - Wiltshire - United Kingdom
Simper - Manningford - Wiltshire - United Kingdom
Rutt - Hampshire - United Kingdom

Offline ennael

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,017
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: James Doyle Children Vanishing Liverpool Colony of NSW
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 29 March 14 06:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
 This looks interesting:

Marriages:
19349/1935   
LISTON    Frederick  C 
STIEME    Ethel M Beckhaus   
Registered at PETERSHAM

1375/1903   
STIEME    George L   
BECKHAUS    Josephine  E   
Registered at  LIVERPOOL


Birth:
4299/1877   
BECKHAUS    Josephine  E   
Father Jacob   
Mother Annie   
Registered at  GLEBE 

Leanne

Online judb

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,977
    • View Profile
Re: James Doyle Children Vanishing Liverpool Colony of NSW
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 29 March 14 06:30 GMT (UK) »
Names and dates are ok for this lady:

NSWBMD
Death
1956 #23422
Avess Martha HULLICK, 85, registered Singleton
Under the column Mother's Name is only the word:    SINGLETON

I cannot see a marriage for a man with surname HULLICK

However, there are these births, all registered  Woollahra.

28081/1902 Leslie J HULLICK, parents: Leslie T, Avis M
29725/1905 Ernest M   HULLICK, parents: Leslie, Avis - died 1906, registered Randwick
18358/1900  Harold J    HULLICK, parents: Leslie T, Avis M

Death of Leslie
7233/1907    Leslie T HULLICK, parents James, Mary; reg WOOLLAHRA 
Also reports on TROVE, eg
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/112642031

Death of other sons
10229/1945 Harold James HULLICK, parents: Leslie Theobald, Avis Martha,  reg MANLY
10461/1982  Leslie Joseph HULLICK, parents    Leslie Joseph, Adis (sic) (No reg district given) 

However, there are a number of TROVE mentions of "Mrs HULLICK" and her son Harold at Singleton from about 1915 which seems a bit odd as the  DOYLE family appears to be in west Sydney areas.

National Archives has a digitised copy of WW1 papers for Harold James HULLICK which includes a signature of his mother A M HULLICK.
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/index.aspx

As I said - a long shot!

Judith
DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
"Time present and time past are both perhaps present in time future..." T S Eliot

UK Census information Crown Copyrightt, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline wivenhoe

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,546
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: James Doyle Children Vanishing Liverpool Colony of NSW
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 29 March 14 06:36 GMT (UK) »
Avice is a female given name. I cannot Avess used as a family name.

I wonder if Avess is a family spelling of Avice, in which case, as long as they are consistent with the spelling, it works to your advantage in finding this family.

Can you give all the information on the death certificate James DOYLE 1893 please.

From the notice in the paper he died at son's residence Terminus St Liverpool.

What was the cause of death, and the history ie. doctor last saw him, what.....few days earlier, week earlier. Is it a sudden death, or chronic illness?.

If it is a chronic illness then James was living with his son, not just visiting?.

Daughters usually looked after ailing aged parents, so does that mean that Avess was living there as well......and they all lived there?

Did son James b. 1865 and d. 1925 marry?

If he did not, then his death certificate, with parents' names, was well informed, and might serve to locate a sister as informant.  If he married and his wife was alive then she would likely be the informant.

The marriage certificate Annie m. BECKHAUS 1878 is no longer need for the purpose I suggested because we know that Elizabeth Hannah and one sister were using their birth family name, DOYLE, as adults.

The death certificate for James DOYLE d. 1925 would be your next chance to see one of his sisters named.


Online judb

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,977
    • View Profile
Re: James Doyle Children Vanishing Liverpool Colony of NSW
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 29 March 14 06:38 GMT (UK) »
YAY - not such a long shot ;D :) :D

1898 #2646, NSW, registered Sydney
Aris M DOYLE
Leslie T HULLOCK


This is from Ancestry's Australian Marriage Index - I can't get it on NSW BMD index  ???


Judith
DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
"Time present and time past are both perhaps present in time future..." T S Eliot

UK Census information Crown Copyrightt, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Online ~MERLIN~

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,415
    • View Profile
Re: James Doyle Children Vanishing Liverpool Colony of NSW
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 29 March 14 06:58 GMT (UK) »
It's there Judith... they have Aris as the groom & Leslie as the bride  ::)

DOYLE Aris M m. HULLOCK Leslie T 1898 SYDNEY #2646

Online judb

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,977
    • View Profile
Re: James Doyle Children Vanishing Liverpool Colony of NSW
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 29 March 14 07:04 GMT (UK) »
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

A magical incantation from our resident wizard - well found Merlin!

Judith
DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
"Time present and time past are both perhaps present in time future..." T S Eliot

UK Census information Crown Copyrightt, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Online ~MERLIN~

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,415
    • View Profile
Re: James Doyle Children Vanishing Liverpool Colony of NSW
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 29 March 14 07:09 GMT (UK) »
1903 ERoll at Oxford St, PADDINGTON:

HULLICK Leslie - Clerk
HULLICK Avis - Home Duties


Offline wivenhoe

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,546
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: James Doyle Children Vanishing Liverpool Colony of NSW
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 29 March 14 07:17 GMT (UK) »
Well done Merlin

death
23422/1956  HULLICK  Avess Martha  85 YEARS  SINGLETON  SINGLETON