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Re: Whereabouts of Joseph HAZELL pre-1891
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 06 April 14 12:59 BST (UK) »
I have discovered him in the 1881 Census.  Rather a bizarre entry this, as he has himself as Joseph HAZLE, Head of Family, aged 29, with just a servant housekeeper in Allace (sic) Ransom aged 18, and an Emily aged 55, described as "mother, married".  Not quite sure where she fits into the equation.
They're at Pound House.  Cowlinge seems to be such a small community, I'm sure everyone knew everyone else's business, a pity we can't now ask those parishioners what exactly what was going on!

Emily is Emily Ransom - obviously Alice's mother!
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Re: Whereabouts of Joseph HAZELL pre-1891
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 06 April 14 13:17 BST (UK) »
KGarrad,
Of course she is, one less puzzling piece of the jigsaw!  I wonder what the dynamics of this particular household were in 1881...
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Re: Whereabouts of Joseph HAZELL pre-1891
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 06 April 14 14:11 BST (UK) »
That's the same address as 1871 - the Braddy household
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Re: Whereabouts of Joseph HAZELL pre-1891
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 06 April 14 16:35 BST (UK) »
KGarrad,
Of course she is, one less puzzling piece of the jigsaw!  I wonder what the dynamics of this particular household were in 1881...
Keith

In light of later developments (i.e. they married!) perhaps chaperone?! ;D ;D
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Re: Whereabouts of Joseph HAZELL pre-1891
« Reply #13 on: Monday 07 April 14 13:32 BST (UK) »
Taken from Cowlinge parish register.

John Braddy - 25 - bachelor - labourer
Elizabeth Hazle - 24 - spinster - servant
Both of this parish
Married 28th August 1854
Both signed X
Fathers: James Braddy labourer, William Hazle labourer
In presence of: Jeremiah Braddy (X) and Mary Ann Chapman (X)

I checked baptisms at cowlinge 1852 to 1864 but couldn't see Joseph Hazle/Braddy or any other children of this couple.

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Re: Whereabouts of Joseph HAZELL pre-1891
« Reply #14 on: Monday 07 April 14 13:34 BST (UK) »
Taken from Cowlinge parish register.

Joseph Hazel - 31 - bachelor - labourer of Cowlinge
Alice Ransom - 18 - spinster - of Cowlinge
Married 6th May 1882
He signed X, she signed her name
Fathers: none given for Joseph, and George Ransom labourer
In presence of James Braddy (X) and Betsy Braddy (X)

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Re: Whereabouts of Joseph HAZELL pre-1891
« Reply #15 on: Monday 07 April 14 13:44 BST (UK) »
Heywood and KGarrad,
Sorry! I meant to acknowledge your further input in to this thread, with wry humour to the fore…
And Annes, thanks so much for transcribing the whole of that marriage entry for 1854 (and now this moment I see that you've given me Joseph's 1882 marriage too).  So more important details, that Elizabeth HAZLE's father was a William, and that Alice RANSOM's father was a George…
Is there perhaps a baptism entry for Joseph HAZLE for about 1852, giving his mother as Elizabeth, but 
the term "baseborn", or some other disapproving label used…
This is all taking shape very nicely thanks to all this extra help.
Regards, Keith

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Re: Whereabouts of Joseph HAZELL pre-1891
« Reply #16 on: Monday 07 April 14 13:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Keith, I looked for Joseph's baptism under both names, no entry for a baseborn child of Elizabeth Hazle that I could see  :-\.

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Re: Whereabouts of Joseph HAZELL pre-1891
« Reply #17 on: Monday 07 April 14 13:57 BST (UK) »
Annes,
Now, that's very interesting - thanks so much for looking that up for me too!
keith