Patrick SLOAN and Sarah WALMSLEY married about 1841, Ballymartin

[janali]

I am trying to find ancestors/siblings of Patrick Sloan, born abt 1821 in County Down. He married Sarah Walmsley (daughter of George Walmsley and Christina McDowell) abt 1841 at Ballymartin.  They had 7 children, Mary Ann abt 1848, Margaret abt 1849, Hugh abt 1856, Patrick abt 1858, James abt 1861, Christina abt 1862 and Arthur abt 1863. Patrick (snr) was a Res Colour Sgt in the 9th Foot Regiment at Newry in 1849.  He died 18/8/1863 and is buried at Killyleagh, with his granddaughter Sarah Fitzsimons (nee Croskery). All of the children, with the exception of Margaret, emigrated to New Zealand as well as Sarah between 1874 and 1880.  Can you help me to find any more info on this family?

[Synot]

Hi,  I am a descendant of Patrick & Sarah living in New Zealand. I can help with some NZ info if you don't already have this ( I see your post was 2005).  Cheers TonyS

[BallyaltikilliganG]

Heres a start on the irish sources
Ballymartin townland appears to be in two civil parishes Tullynakill and Kilkeel in Co down. There is a considerable distance between them and I think Tullynakill can be left out o your searches

Ros Davies Co Down website has more accurate dates
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies
Patrick SLOAN(E) .  Kilkeel    of Magherareagh then Leestone ; husband of Betty Sarah Walmsley; father of
Mary bpt. 24 Sep 1848 (sponsors were John Rooney & Mary McAlindon) &
Patrick bpt. 20 Jun 1852 (sp. Pat Rooney & Margaret Cunningham ) &
Catherine bpt. 13 May 1853 &
Hugh bpt. 14 May 1854 (sp. John Trimble & Mary Quinn) &
Christian bpt. 14 Apr 1856 (sp. Jamessley & Margaret Thompson)
all at at Lower Mourne Catholic Church   PR
Notes Ros
has entries for Sloane of Kilkeel civil parish where there are S’ living back to early1700
has Betty Sally under the Walmsley heading and then of Kilkeel civil parish where there are W’s living back to early1700

Tithe-Applotment-Books
from http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/down/tithe-applotment-books/kilkeel-parish.php#.Vl7XCUvBEYU
McDowell, Alexr.    Townland: Moneydaraghmore Year: 1830
McDowell, Robert    Townland: Moneydaraghmore Year: 1830
Walmsley, George     Townland: Ballymagart Year: 1830
numerous Sloane
http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/down/tithe-applotment-books/tullynakill-parish.php#.Vl7YZUvBEYUfrom there are no  McDowell Sloan{e} Walmsley

As the family is catholic I worried about my inclusivity to Kilkeel civil parish as it differs frim the Catholic parish of Kilkeel.the catholic parish name is and found the following explanation on http://www.historyfromheadstones.com/index.php?displaygraveyardinfo&graveyard_name=Ballymartin Graveyard Name : Ballymartin RC Civil Parish : Kilkeel Town / Townland : Ballymartin OS Reference : J341165
Other Information : The church [St Josephs Catholic Church Bamllymartin –Lower Mourne] is a conspicuous object on the inland side of the coast road about half way between Annalong and Kilkeel. Is In the townland of Ballymartin and civil parish of Kilkeel but in the Catholic parish of Lower Mourne, The old parish of Mourne was divided in 1768 and the parish priest of this half, the Rev James Killen, built a church at Ballymartin some time before 1790 when he died, The church was entirely rebuilt in 1825 The graveyard contains few ancient stones, the oldest dating from 1820 most are of rough granite and are difficult to read The graveyard lies entirely to the south of the church. Ros Davies adds in The graveyard is attached, gravestone inscriptions available UHF Vol 10, oldest stone 1820; email me for a gravestone look-up
The other church is
St. Mary's Catholic Church, Glassdrumman - Lower Mourne
on the western side of the Newcastle to Kilkeel road
This chapel was built in 1832 ....Newspaper article from Northern Herald;
consecration 21 Dec 1833
{RECORDS} PRONI & NLI have baptisms 1842-1881 & marriages 1839-1880; UHF have baptisms 1842-1900 & marriages 1839-1900;graveyard nearby, gravestone inscriptions available UHF Vol 10; email me for a gravestone look-up

moving to Griffiths Valuation
http://www.failteromhat.com/post1845.php
Mc Dowell   James   Moneydorragh More Upper   Kilkeel   Down
Mc Dowell   John   Moneydorragh More   Kilkeel   Down
Mc Dowell   John   Newry Street,Kilkeel   Kilkeel   Down
Mc Dowell   Margaret   Greencastle Street,Kilkeel   Kilkeel   Down
Mc Dowell   Samuel   Shore Road,Kilkeel   Kilkeel   Down
Sloan   Mary   Ballymartin   Tullynakill   Down
Sloane an amazing no of entries inc
Sloane   Nicholas   Ballymartin   Kilkeel   Down
Sloane   William   Ballymartin   Kilkeel   Down
Walmsley 14 including
Walmsley   George   Ballyardel   Kilkeel   Down
Walmsley   George   Ballymagart   Kilkeel   Down

The other website that has more detailed information as www.askaboutireland.com then find Griffiths , it has maps about 1860 that can tell you much.  Finally of you dont know the area  google maps  and enlarge ballymartin until you are in satellite and street scenes

Good luck with relatives JimG

[sarah]

Hi Synot,

Welcome to RootsChat

I am sorry but your message to Janali has not gone through as the email address is currently "over quota" hopefully the problem will be resolved when they clear the problem,

Regards

Sarah

[kiwimintie]

Hi,  Would like any new info on these two.  Previous info on here I have.  Sarah aka as Betty or Elizabeth Sarah, depending where one finds it.  Who were their parents?  I have John Sloan but not verified, no mother.  Sarah's mother Christina or Christiana McDowell m George Walmsley, later m Hugh McAlindon b1801 on 5 Aug 1826 Kilkeel, per IGI.  Any info would be greatly appreciated.    Thanks,   Trish

[Maiden Stone]

Sarah's mother Christina or Christiana McDowell m George Walmsley, later m Hugh McAlindon b1801 on 5 Aug 1826 Kilkeel, per IGI. 

Will you please clarify:
Was it Christina McDowell who was born in 1801? Where?
Whom did Christina marry on 5th August 1826? Was this in Kilkeel? When did she marry the other husband?
Do you have another thread on RootsChat about this family? You ask for "new info" so I assume that you have previously asked for information on them.
Edit. I now see that this is your first post on RootsChat. Welcome to RootsChat. 

[hallmark]

There is a trhread with a pile of info already posted!


Saves others wasting their time finding what has already been found

[hallmark]

Threads merged.

[Maiden Stone]

Thanks hallmark. That's why I asked if there already was a thread, then noticed that kiwimintie is new.
Kiwimintie, I suggest that you add a post to the previous thread  which hallmark has highlighted, saying that you have started a new thread about Patrick Sloan and Sarah Elizabeth Walmsley, with a link to this one. Contributors to the original thread may get a notification that there has been a new reply. They will then become aware of this thread and may be able to contribute more information.
An alternative is to ask a moderator to merge the threads. 
Have you put these families on Surname Interests?
Edit. I've asked mod's opinion on merging threads.