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What happened to Julia?
« on: Thursday 17 April 14 14:44 BST (UK) »
Julia Elizabeth Clements was baptised in St Peters and St Pauls Exton 25 October 1887, I can find her in Exton on the 1891, then nothing

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Re: What happened to Julia?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 17 April 14 15:04 BST (UK) »
This looks like her birth reg

JAn/Feb/MAr 1885
Oakham
ref 7a 339
Julia Elizabeth Clements

Have to watch out as there is another girl around of similar age with same name - this birth reg :
Oct/Nov/Dec 1889
Reading
Julia Elizabeth Clements

One of them marries in Surrey in 1906
Jul/Aug/Sep 1906
Farnham
ref 2a 259
to either David Westmacott or Charles George Baker

Hopefully a fiddle around on 1911 will show which one she married and whether this one that married was the one that was born in Rutland or the one that was born in Reading areas.
Sorry, 1911 look ups arent allowed, so I cant do it  for you!
Ref 2c 361
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: What happened to Julia?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 17 April 14 15:05 BST (UK) »
Found the marriage - it was in Aldershot and the groom was Charles George Baker.

Without doing a full 1911 look up, it is looking as if the Julia Elizabeth Clements born Reading is still under that name in 1911.

So that means, if she didnt marry in Aldershot in 1906, then the Rutland one probably did!

Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: What happened to Julia?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 17 April 14 15:09 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I think Julia Elizabeth Clements married Charles George Baker (soldier)  at Holy Trinity, Aldershot on 06/08/1906. She is a spinster aged 21. He is a bachelor aged 24. They both gave Holly Road Aldershot as their address.

Father's name Henry Clements, deceased (think he died in 1903) & Harry Henry Baker, seaman.
Witnesses were Edward John ?ooper & Edith Nunan

The pob on 1911 census also ties in.

Sharon

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Re: What happened to Julia?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 17 April 14 16:07 BST (UK) »
lizdb & Sharon01

Thank you both, I take my dogs out for a walk and you have both been busy! makes me feel guilty but for some reason I was getting nowhere lookig for her :o
I wonder why I can find her on the 1901?
....and Sharon you are correct her dads name was Henry he was buried 4 Aug 1902 in Exton
Leicestershire:Chamberlain, Dakin, Wilkinson, Moss, Cook, Welland, Dobson, Roper,Palfreman, Squires, Hames, Goddard, Topliss, Twells,Bacon.
Northamps:Sykes, Harris, Rice,Knowles.
Rutland:Clements, Dalby, Osbourne, Durance, Smith,Christian, Royce, Richardson,Oakham, Dewey,Newbold,Cox,Chamberlaine,Brow, Cooper, Bloodworth,Clarke
Durham/Yorks:Woodend, Watson,Parker, Dowser
Suffolk/Norfolk:Groom, Coleman, Kemp, Barnard, Alden,Blomfield,Smith,Howes,Knight,Kett,Fryston
Lincolnshire:Clements, Woodend

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Re: What happened to Julia?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 17 April 14 16:56 BST (UK) »
She's not at home with Mum, Dad and siblings John, William and Rosetta.

They are at RG 13 3014  89 13 still in Exton, Rutland
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: What happened to Julia?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 17 April 14 17:45 BST (UK) »
In 1901 there's a Julia "Clewents" [according to Ancestry] b Exton working as a scullery maid at The Hall, Goadby Marwood, Leicestershire. Only problem is she's listed as being 23 [and the image concurs] - as are three servants immediately above her, so I wonder if this is a mistake by the enumerator

Ref is RG13, 3013, 97, 5

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Re: What happened to Julia?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 17 April 14 18:46 BST (UK) »
She's not at home with Mum, Dad and siblings John, William and Rosetta.

They are at RG 13 3014  89 13 still in Exton, Rutland

Yes the last 4 children were at home, one was visiting aunt/uncle in Burley and the others married, apart from Ann Jane (elder sister who disappears after 1891) and Rosetta follows suit and disappears after 1901

Thank you Mabel Bagshawe that is a possibility and worth me investigating some more, I don't know of any other Julia Clem(w)ents born in Exton I do have one born in Barrowden in 1874 which I have not as yet 'followed' her 'path' but will also investigate her more as well to eliminate.

All the older siblings ended up in London ( or south) and married I suppose searching for work took them



Leicestershire:Chamberlain, Dakin, Wilkinson, Moss, Cook, Welland, Dobson, Roper,Palfreman, Squires, Hames, Goddard, Topliss, Twells,Bacon.
Northamps:Sykes, Harris, Rice,Knowles.
Rutland:Clements, Dalby, Osbourne, Durance, Smith,Christian, Royce, Richardson,Oakham, Dewey,Newbold,Cox,Chamberlaine,Brow, Cooper, Bloodworth,Clarke
Durham/Yorks:Woodend, Watson,Parker, Dowser
Suffolk/Norfolk:Groom, Coleman, Kemp, Barnard, Alden,Blomfield,Smith,Howes,Knight,Kett,Fryston
Lincolnshire:Clements, Woodend