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Lebias Jones/Williams b 1841
« on: Friday 18 April 14 06:26 BST (UK) »
I am researching Lebias. To start with, it's not easy as the spelling of his name is never consistant. Sometimes it's Lebias, Lebius, Lebbeus etc.
I have found that he was born in Ysceifiog. His birth was registered at Holywell Q1 1841. He married Mary Evans in 1864 and then lived in Cilcain. He died 1911.
His later life is fine. It is his parents that I can't find.
On the 1841C he is at Drefraith, Ysceifiog with his grandfather Edward Jones (75), grandmother Jane (70), their daughter Anne (25) and two grandchildren Joseph JONES (4) and Lebias JONES (5m).
On the 1851C he is at the same address with grandfather Edward Jones (85), his daughter Anne (35) and the 2 grandchildren now listed as Joseph PARRY (14) and Lebbeus WILLIAMS (10).
Anne is shown as unmarried.
Originally I thought Joseph and Lebias were both Anne's illegitimate children. Now seeing the names as Parry and Williams causes concern.
Hopefully a Birth Certificate for Lebias would give a clue to his parentage but Joseph was born pre BMD registration.
I have tried to find Baptisms for both children, but found nothing.
I wonder if anyone knows of this family or has access to Parish Records which may give further information on their parents.
Any help will be appreciated.
Many thanks.
Bryn Williams

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Re: Lebias Jones/Williams b 1841
« Reply #1 on: Friday 18 April 14 08:13 BST (UK) »
As Lebias's birth was registered in the name of Williams and he continued to use that surname I would get the birth certificate.  Ann's surname is given on census as Jones, if he was her son I would expect it to be Williams.

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Re: Lebias Jones/Williams b 1841
« Reply #2 on: Friday 18 April 14 08:59 BST (UK) »
The only vaguely similar name I can find on North Wales BMD is that of a Levi Williams born in 1840.

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: Lebias Jones/Williams b 1841
« Reply #3 on: Friday 18 April 14 09:46 BST (UK) »
I have to ask;Is this person your Direct Ancestor or is it is someone your just perhaps curious of given the connection to  the Edward Jones?

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: Lebias Jones/Williams b 1841
« Reply #4 on: Friday 18 April 14 17:58 BST (UK) »
Rosie,
Thank you.
Bryn

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Re: Lebias Jones/Williams b 1841
« Reply #5 on: Friday 18 April 14 18:03 BST (UK) »
Hi William,
Thanks for your reply.
My connection is :
Lebias had a son Simon Williams who married Sephorah Jones.
Sephorah Jones was my maternal step-grandfather (Llewellyn Jones)'s sister.
Bryn.

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Re: Lebias Jones/Williams b 1841
« Reply #6 on: Friday 18 April 14 18:18 BST (UK) »
I see.Its a shame your not connected to the Edward Jones you mentioned.I'm mildly curious about him.

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William Russell Jones.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
Census Information Is Crown Copyright,from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk