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Richard Crookham (b. c. 1739) and Ellen Birchall (b. c. 1738)
« on: Thursday 01 May 14 16:12 BST (UK) »
Richard and Ellen married at Halsall in 1760 and had children in Aughton in the 1760s and '70s (Elizabeth, Alice, William, Thomas and James). They moved to Crosby by the early 1800s and Ellen died there in 1810. She was buried Formby where her gravestone gives her age at death as 72 (i.e. born c. 1738) . Richard lived on several more years and died in Thornton in 1821 "aged 82" (i.e. born c. 1739)

I have not been able to find baptismal records for either of this couple. Many online trees link to a 1745 baptism for an Ellen Birchall in Aughton, but as well as placing her at just turned 15 for her marriage, there is already a marriage in Birchall for this Ellen at 1767.

So...does anyone have access to any Lancashire PRs for the right period that aren't included on FamilySearch or the Lancs PR website? Or anyone have any leads on where to try and find these two peoples' origins...?
Kirkburton Bray Morton Charlesworth Kay Swallow Moorhouse Walker Mathewman
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Re: Richard Crookham (b. c. 1739) and Ellen Birchall (b. c. 1738)
« Reply #1 on: Friday 02 May 14 13:47 BST (UK) »
Hi
Familysearch has baptism for
Ellen Birchall born 11.12.1736 bap 26.12.1736 at Newchurch Kenyon to a Jon Birchall.
Not too up on the area,so not sure how near that is.
On Freereg
Ellen Brackill 22.9.1734 to Richard  at Hoole.
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Re: Richard Crookham (b. c. 1739) and Ellen Birchall (b. c. 1738)
« Reply #2 on: Friday 02 May 14 14:06 BST (UK) »
Thanks, but sadly those locations are, respectively, 24 and 39 miles away from Halsall, so it's a bit of a stretch...
Kirkburton Bray Morton Charlesworth Kay Swallow Moorhouse Walker Mathewman
Penistone Micklethwaite
Liverpool Moore Durning
Formby Crookham Birchall Dobb Fleetwood
Childwall Fleetwood Knowles Ireland
Kendal Coulton Derome
Essex Cooper Robinson
Warrington Bleasdale Atherton
Suffolk Death
Lewes Spurgeon Horton
East Lothian Paxton Durkie
Edinburgh Blaikie Rollock Livingstone
Chirnside Paxton
Kilbarron Young Donohue Stapleton Meagher Fogarty Gleeson Meara Nevin
Kilsheelan Hennessy
Galway Nevin

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Re: Richard Crookham (b. c. 1739) and Ellen Birchall (b. c. 1738)
« Reply #3 on: Friday 02 May 14 15:08 BST (UK) »
Hoole, or more specifically Much Hoole, where the church is, is about 14 miles from the centre of Aughton. Down the turnpike and turn right at Ormskirk.

Might be worth another look.
Looking at ALSTON in south Ribble area, ALSTEAD and DONBAVAND/DUNBABIN etc. everywhere, HOWCROFT and MARSH in Bolton and Westhoughton, PICKERING in the Whitehaven area.

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Re: Richard Crookham (b. c. 1739) and Ellen Birchall (b. c. 1738)
« Reply #4 on: Friday 31 July 15 12:06 BST (UK) »
Baptism: 27 Dec 1740 St Aidan, Billinge, Lancs.
Ellen Birchall - Daughter of Peter Birchall & Ellen
    Abode: Ashton
    Occupation: Hinge maker
    Baptised by: Hump. Walley Curate
    Register: Baptisms 1727 - 1760, Page 52
    Source: Original register at Wigan Archives

I wonder if I've found her? Two years out on birthdate, and unfortunately the father's name doesn't appear amongst those of her children. But then again, neither does her mother's, which is also her own name!

Siblings Elizabeth 1730, Jane 1733 (Dad is a collier), John 1738 (Dad is a blacksmith).

The family appear not to stay in the area, as no death records are recorded for the parents (no marriage record either, intriguingly!)
Kirkburton Bray Morton Charlesworth Kay Swallow Moorhouse Walker Mathewman
Penistone Micklethwaite
Liverpool Moore Durning
Formby Crookham Birchall Dobb Fleetwood
Childwall Fleetwood Knowles Ireland
Kendal Coulton Derome
Essex Cooper Robinson
Warrington Bleasdale Atherton
Suffolk Death
Lewes Spurgeon Horton
East Lothian Paxton Durkie
Edinburgh Blaikie Rollock Livingstone
Chirnside Paxton
Kilbarron Young Donohue Stapleton Meagher Fogarty Gleeson Meara Nevin
Kilsheelan Hennessy
Galway Nevin

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Re: Richard Crookham (b. c. 1739) and Ellen Birchall (b. c. 1738)
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 01 August 15 20:10 BST (UK) »
16th March 1745/46
St Oswald Winwick
Peter Birchal,
buried no age given
abode Ashton

Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: Richard Crookham (b. c. 1739) and Ellen Birchall (b. c. 1738)
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 01 August 15 23:10 BST (UK) »
Wow, thanks. That certainly.looks right to me!!
Kirkburton Bray Morton Charlesworth Kay Swallow Moorhouse Walker Mathewman
Penistone Micklethwaite
Liverpool Moore Durning
Formby Crookham Birchall Dobb Fleetwood
Childwall Fleetwood Knowles Ireland
Kendal Coulton Derome
Essex Cooper Robinson
Warrington Bleasdale Atherton
Suffolk Death
Lewes Spurgeon Horton
East Lothian Paxton Durkie
Edinburgh Blaikie Rollock Livingstone
Chirnside Paxton
Kilbarron Young Donohue Stapleton Meagher Fogarty Gleeson Meara Nevin
Kilsheelan Hennessy
Galway Nevin