William H and Joseph Vincent .. Where did they Go?

[New Zealander]

Can anyone assist please?

William H (Henry?) and Joseph Vincent are brothers.  Both were born in Cornwall,  William in 1844 and Joseph in 1859. They emigrated with their mother Mary Vincent nee Rowe and three other siblings to Dunedin, New Zealand on the SV Chile arriving at Port Chalmers on 11.12.1861.  This arrival can be found in the Otago Witness newspaper on 14.12.1861.

Mary Vincent married Herman Anderson in Knox Church Dunedin on 25.08.1862 (I have the Marriage Cert) and likely moved to Lyttleton where she died and was interred on 26.10.1876.  She had a daughter Evelina to Herman Anderson.  These two were not traced further.

Three of the Vincent siblings can be traced but after arrival in New Zealand not a thing has been found for either William H or Joseph Vincent.

A William Henry Vincent can be found in Dunedin Electoral Rolls for 1880 and 1890 but there is nothing to link him to the Vincent family of 1861 or Joseph Vincent.

Would much appreciate any assistance or information to locate these two brothers William H and Joseph Vincent.

In anticipation a big thank you.

Alex G

[Janette]

Hi Alex

Here is the 1861 census,Mary is still married but her husband William is not present

1861 Census
         
Piece: RG9/1583 Place: Redruth -Cornwall Enumeration District: 6
Civil Parish: Camborne Ecclesiastical Parish: St. Martins Camborne
Folio: 162 Page: 22 Schedule: 112
Address: Vyvyan Row
    Surname   First name(s)   Rel   Status   Sex   Age   Occupation   Where Born 
    VINCENT   Mary   Head   M   F   37   Formerly Boot Binder    Cornwall - Penzance       
    VINCENT   William H   Son   U   M   17   Miner    Cornwall - Camborne       
    VINCENT   Peter   Son   U   M   15   Miner    Cornwall - Camborne       
    VINCENT   Mary Jane   Dau   U   F   10   Scholar    Cornwall - Camborne       
    VINCENT   Elizabeth   Dau   U   F   8   Scholar    Cornwall - Camborne       
    VINCENT   Joseph   Son   U   M   2   -    Cornwall - Camborne

Cheers Janette

[New Zealander]

Janette

Thank you for that.  The 1861 Census was taken on the 7th April 8 months before the SV Chile arrived in Port Chalmers.  The next record of the family including the brothers William H and Joseph Vincent is the report in the Otago Witness on 11.12.1861 then nothing.

Cheers

Alex G

[crowsfeet]

Kia Ora
I note that the mother was nee Rowe. A whole clan of Cornish Rowes' moved between NZ and Aus a lot. Most of them working in mining. Also Sth Africa. I wonder if you extend your search to the mining centres in NZ & Aus.

Most likely Mary had relatives amongst the mining community and during the depression in the 1880's work was hard to find.
Regards
Crowsfeet

[New Zealander]

Never occured to me .. shall try a search on Trove and Victoria Prov and see what that turns up.

Thank you

Alex G

[Janette]

This could be Joseph's death

1936/14987 Vincent  Joseph  77Y

Cheers Janette

[New Zealander]

Janette

A good match I think.  The trick now to find the burial or gravesite

Many thanks

Alex G

[spades]

Hi Alex,

I did a soundex search of the NZSG Burial Locator v.2 but couldn't find a match for either individual.

Spades

[New Zealander]

Spades

 Yes have tried that as well.  Also had a look at Archives NZ but nothing there for at least for Joseph.  Guess a death printout would provide an answer.

Alex