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Offline Ladyhawk

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Re: Arthur Spence Cleaver
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 17 May 14 09:36 BST (UK) »

I am surprised to see the location of Cecil Alwyn's death place as Northern Ireland. I had read elsewhere that he died in Tanganyika on 11 January 1935.??


He did die in SA the details were from Northern Ireland, Will Calendar Index, 1839-1943
that gave a link to the Proni site for the full abstract, perhaps a mistake with transcripton of place of death  :-\

New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Cecil A S Cleaver single age 23 London occ Army Officer
Arrival Date:   3 Oct 1930 New York
Port of Departure:   Southampton Ship Name:   Berengaria

The London Gazette 3 Sept 1926 – Cecil Alwyn Spencer Cleaver
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0z9b/

Re: the Proni site it's

a fully searchable index to will calendar entries three District Probate Registries of
Armagh, Belfast and Londonderry................

introduction
If you see an 'image' icon next to an entry on the will calendars application,
simply click on this to see the full content of a will as recorded by the District Registry
http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/will_calendars.htm

this is Adelaide's entry

Adelaide Franklin Cleaver of 2 Southwick Crescent Hyde Park London and of The Sundial Beaulieu Road Cooden county Sussex married woman died 14 August 1939 at latter place
Probate London 23 January 1940 to Gordon Neil Spencer Cleaverflying officer in R.A.F.
Effects in Northern Ireland £185 14s.
Re-sealed Belfast 9 August.
date of grant was 23 January 1943

you have Arthur's from Annette but it also says

Arthur Spencer Cleaver Re-sealed Belfast 14 November
date of grant 25 July 1941

There's also a Sir James Frederick Cleaver probate to Arthur Spencer Cleaver Lieut. Colonel

There are others by the name of Cleaver don't know if they are related to your Cleaver family
have a look just enter surname Cleaver (11 names come up)


Would any of your sources show any children to Gordon and Pauline Cleaver after their marriage in 1939 please?


I checked FreeBMD http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ using surname Cleaver mmn Hepworth
but NO Births showing

have you seen theses

Gordon Neil Spencer Cleaver joined 601 Squadron 1937 skied for Britain in the years before the war. Mobilised on November 24th 1939 went to Merville in France  May 16th 1940 with 'A' Flight of 601……..
On the 18th Cleaver and F/Lt. Hope brought down a Do17 of 2/KG76 west of Mons……..
http://www.bbm.org.uk/Cleaver.htm

THE LONDON GAZETTE, 29 NOVEMBER, 1938 – Gordon
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0z9c/

THE LONDON GAZETTE, 13 SEPTEMBER, 1940 – Gordon
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0z9d/

THE LONDON GAZETTE, 3 DECEMBER, 1940 – Gordon
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0z9e/

THE LONDON GAZETTE, APRIL 17, 1900 – Arthur
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0z9f/

THE BELFAST GAZETTE, MARCH 22, 1935 = Arthur
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0z9g/

THE BELFAST GAZETTE, MAY, 1, 1936 – Arthur
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0z9h/

THE LONDON GAZETTE, 8 AUGUST, 1941 – Arthur
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Re: Arthur Spence Cleaver
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 17 May 14 11:04 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much for all that information Ladyhawk. Brilliant !!

What does "re-sealed" mean in reference to the Wills ?. I was unaware they were available on the PRONI site. Thanks for that lead also.

It would be great to get in touch with some of Adelaide's descendants...... they may not even be aware of how adventurous an aviatrix she was back in the 1920's.!

Ive requested copy of Gordon's death cert so maybe there might be a name on that that will give me a clue to another family member that was alive in 1994.

Her other son Cecil was single in 1930 according to that passenger list. I don't know yet if he was still single when he died in 1935.

Thanks again Ladyhawk,

Regards,

Michael.

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