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John SMITH married Mary SUISTED
« on: Monday 02 June 14 10:12 BST (UK) »

and they had a child named John Edward Valentine SMITH (b ? 1856, England) married Alice WILSON (nee CUMBERBEACH), New Zealand.

John and Mary SMITH are my g.g.grandparents and I can't find their branches of surrounding family  :o

I know there was an early NZ pioneer called Charles SUISTED who had possibly had a sibling Mary but cannot link my Mary to this one.

Any ideas welcome please
BUCHANAN - Waikato, New Zealand
John and Alice SMITH - Waikouaiti/Flag Swamp/Wyndham - South Island NZ
THOMAS - Tenby, Wales 1700's - 1800's

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Re: John SMITH married Mary SUISTED
« Reply #1 on: Monday 02 June 14 10:30 BST (UK) »
Hello...

Welcome to Rootschat :)

You've actually posted on the "NZ Completed Requests" board, an easy mistake to make.

I'll ask one of the moderators to move your thread onto the main NZ board.

Good luck with the search :-)

Regards
Beg

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Re: John SMITH married Mary SUISTED
« Reply #2 on: Monday 02 June 14 10:32 BST (UK) »
Hi Alise, and welcome to RootsChat. ;D

The only New Zealand marriage I can find for John Edward Valentine SMITH is to Helen Kidd MURDOCH in 1922. No marriage for a Alice CUMBERBEACH.

But this might be the event you're after: In 1881 an Alice WILSON married a John SMITH (no middle names).

Did John SMITH or his wife Mary nee SUISTED emigrate to New Zealand, and if so, when? Do you have dates of death for them or for the son John, or for Alice?

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p.s. Thanks Beg, I'm on it. ;D


 
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HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
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Re: John SMITH married Mary SUISTED
« Reply #3 on: Monday 02 June 14 10:53 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I will throw this one in for elimination or not.

Looks like the NZSG hold in their Certificate Collection, a certificate for an Alice Cumberbeach and a John Smith for 23 June 1922, Dunedin, which ties in with a death for George Edward Smith.

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KHP

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Re: John SMITH married Mary SUISTED
« Reply #4 on: Monday 02 June 14 11:04 BST (UK) »
Hi,

The Charles SUISTED you mentioned was probably this man, born in Sweden.
http://www.nzsba.co.nz/news/October-2013/Swedish-Pioneer

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ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
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TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL

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Re: John SMITH married Mary SUISTED
« Reply #5 on: Monday 02 June 14 13:22 BST (UK) »
Hi Alise, and welcome to RootsChat. ;D

The only New Zealand marriage I can find for John Edward Valentine SMITH is to Helen Kidd MURDOCH in 1922. No marriage for a Alice CUMBERBEACH.

But this might be the event you're after: In 1881 an Alice WILSON married a John SMITH (no middle names).

Did John SMITH or his wife Mary nee SUISTED emigrate to New Zealand, and if so, when? Do you have dates of death for them or for the son John, or for Alice?

Spades

p.s. Thanks Beg, I'm on it. ;D

whoooops ..thanks for moving it .  I'm a chat newbie in case no-one had noticed :} The info I have is

Mary Suisted (?Sjostedt) m John Smith  << these are my research targets :)

 i  only know of one child

John Edward Valentine Smith (Snr) (? b 1856 - ) 
married Alice Cumberbeach b Jan 1856 (this being Alice's second husband - yes first was James WILSON)
Alice d 14 Dec 1924 in  New Zealand

they had 3 children - one of them being my pedigree

John Edward Valentine Smith (Sam) (1885 - 1957)

I don't know with certainty if John and Mary emigrated. I do know John E V SMITH (Snr) was born in England (according to marriage cert at least) and somehow ended up in NZ, marrying Alice in 1881.

Thanks all for your replies. Sorry for the glitch
BUCHANAN - Waikato, New Zealand
John and Alice SMITH - Waikouaiti/Flag Swamp/Wyndham - South Island NZ
THOMAS - Tenby, Wales 1700's - 1800's

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Re: John SMITH married Mary SUISTED
« Reply #6 on: Monday 02 June 14 13:26 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I will throw this one in for elimination or not.

Looks like the NZSG hold in their Certificate Collection, a certificate for an Alice Cumberbeach and a John Smith for 23 June 1922, Dunedin, which ties in with a death for George Edward Smith.

Cheers
KHP

You can double check the Kiwi Index Spades


John E V SMITH (1885 - 1957) had a brother called George Alexander Edward SMITH , I think. I have just joined the NZSG but still finding my way around. Thank you
BUCHANAN - Waikato, New Zealand
John and Alice SMITH - Waikouaiti/Flag Swamp/Wyndham - South Island NZ
THOMAS - Tenby, Wales 1700's - 1800's

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Re: John SMITH married Mary SUISTED
« Reply #7 on: Monday 02 June 14 20:18 BST (UK) »
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Sorry for the glitch


No need to apologise .... it can happen to anyone, whether they are newbies or not. 


Cheers
KHP
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Re: John SMITH married Mary SUISTED
« Reply #8 on: Monday 02 June 14 23:32 BST (UK) »
Hello,

A connection perhaps??

NZ BDM index has the birth for a Charles William Richmond SUISTED in 1874, parents Janet & Ekermann Selby SUISTED.

There were five children born to this couple another of whom was Florence Mary Agnes, born
1886.

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz

WW1 file for John Edward Valentine SMITH can be viewed and/or downloaded from Archives.

www.archway.archives.govt.nz

Possible snippets about this man in "Papers Past".

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz


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