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Death Dates Please!
« on: Monday 09 June 14 06:05 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I need a death date for Eveline Robena Ivy WILLIAMS and her husband Carl Christian Joseph KOPPLEMAN, sometimes spelt with a (C) last know place was Victoria near Beechworth.

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Re: Death Dates Please!
« Reply #1 on: Monday 09 June 14 06:38 BST (UK) »
Hi Ciena

Could you let us have an idea of s=dates, please?

All I have found with a quick search is the death of their son Lionel
1982, Victoria #25866
Lionel George COPPLEMAN, 70
Died: Heidelberg, Victoria
Father's Name:   Karl
Mother's name:   Robins
Estimated Birth Year:   abt 1912

This man seems to have been buried in Tasmania - although it may not be him

Lionel George Coppleman, 70
Died 25 Oct 1982
Cemetery:   Malbina General. New Norfolk, Tasmania

The image for this burial has this information
COPPLEMAN, Lionel George - 70 years - VX 50714 - Sgt RAE AIF  Died 25 October 1982

Also at Malbina:
COPPLEMAN, Rubeena Ivy - died 21 April 1957 - sp Charles Edward
COPPLEMANN, Charles Edward - died 20 August 1962

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Re: Death Dates Please!
« Reply #2 on: Monday 09 June 14 06:47 BST (UK) »
"COPPLEMAN, Lionel George - 70 years - VX 50714 - Sgt RAE AIF  Died 25 October 1982"

The VX service number indicates that he enlisted in Victoria for WW2 and served overseas.

You should be able to get his war service history OK, I'd think, from the AWM site.

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Re: Death Dates Please!
« Reply #3 on: Monday 09 June 14 06:55 BST (UK) »
NAA has a digitised WW1 enlistment for Charles Edward COPPLEMAN in 1918 but he did not proceed overseas as the war was coming to an end.  At the time of enlistment he was a farmer, living at Malbina, Molesworth, Tasmania and gave a birthplace/date of Molesworth, 29 February, 1885 (was it a Leap Year, don't think so!).  Wife listed as Rubina also of Molesworth.

The son, Lionel enlisted in WW2, but the record isn't digitised.  He enlisted in Wangaratta, Victoria. You can request a copy of the record.

http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/index.aspx

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Re: Death Dates Please!
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 11 June 14 05:58 BST (UK) »
Thank you, Judith & Dawn for the info, I do have all the info on Lionel but what I am really searching for is the death of Carl and his wife Eveline better known as Robena, Lionel is their son and I have all his info.

Charles Edward, is the uncle of Lionel,  but the dates for the deaths of his parents seem to be a bit illusive, maybe the died somewhere other than Victoria, will have to have to do a better search...thank you again.

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Cienna


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Re: Death Dates Please!
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 11 June 14 06:22 BST (UK) »
Sorry, Ciena - I'm a bit confused (as usual  ;D)

Can you clarify for me - is Charles Edward is the uncle of Lionel?

And you are seeking the father of Lionel?  So is Charles Edward the brother of Carl, father of Lionel?  And did he marry a Rubina also?  The cemetery information I found has Charles Edward COPPLEMAN as the spouse of Rubina Ivy COPPLEMAN.

I am assuming if Lionel was born in 1912 his parents would perhaps have been born in the 1880s?

Judith

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Re: Death Dates Please!
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 11 June 14 06:53 BST (UK) »
Electoral Roll 1931
Address, Bright Victoria
COPPLEMAN, Charles Edward, farmer
COPPLEMAN Rubina Ivy. HD

Of course Charles could be the anglicised version of Carl.

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Re: Death Dates Please!
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 11 June 14 07:02 BST (UK) »
As posted by Judith this death.
I wonder if Robins is a mistranscription for Robina.
If so, it would look as if KARL and CHARLES were used interchangeably as his father's name


COPPLEMAN Lionel George
Father  Karl
Mother  Robins
Death Place  HEID
Age  70
Year  1982
Reg Number 25866

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Re: Death Dates Please!
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 11 June 14 07:09 BST (UK) »
Maybe useful to those helping
Carl Christian Joseph Koppleman: Born 1884 Sorell Creek, TAS Bapt: 1884 New Norfolk, TAS
Father: John Koppleman 1835-1915
Mother: Dorothea Sophia Battean 1839-1901
Sister: Meina Louisa Paulina Koppleman 1880-
http://www.mundia.com/au/Person/54694166/13700529394