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Re: Death Dates Please!
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 11 June 14 07:09 BST (UK) »
This link to the Tasmanian Family links page for Carl Christian Joseph KOPPLEMAN.
Born around 1884 (Further to c.o.l.'s post above)

http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?detail=1&type=P&id=367791

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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 18 June 14 02:07 BST (UK) »
Sorry for the delay in answering and also sorry if this is confusing but I am looking for a death for Carl Christian Joseph Koppleman andhis wife Eveline Robena Ivy (nee WILLIAMS) , I was told they did not return to Tasmania but remained in Victoria.

COPPLEMAN, Charles Edward, farmer and COPPLEMAN Rubina Ivy, are not the same couple I am researching although Charles and Carl are from the same family with the (C) replacing the (K) as most of the family did,

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« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 18 June 14 02:36 BST (UK) »
May I please ask for the date of your last sighting of Carl KOPPLEMAN in Victoria?

I am looking for a death for Carl Christian Joseph Koppleman andhis wife Eveline Robena Ivy (nee WILLIAMS) , I was told they did not return to Tasmania but remained in Victoria.

Wise 1912 Tasmania PO Directory
Carl KOPPLEMAN, Malbina
Fritz KOPPLEMAN, Malbina

Wise 1914 Tasmania PO Directory
Carl KOPPLEMAN, farmer & Hop Grower, Malbina
Fritz KOPPLEMAN, farmer, Malbina
Geo KOPPLEMAN, farmer, Malbina
Wltr KOPPLEMAN, farmer, Malbina

Wise 1919 Tasmania PO Directory
HOP GROWERS
Carl KOPPLEMAN, Malbina
 

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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 18 June 14 02:49 BST (UK) »
1943 Electoral Roll TASMANIA polling at New Norfolk

Carl Edward COPPLEMAN, a labourer of Malbina
Rubina COPPLEMAN, home duties, of Molesworth.


1934 Electoral Roll  TASMANIA, polling at New Norfolk
Carl Edward COPPLEMAN, a labourer of Malbina
Rubina COPPLEMAN, home duties, of Malbina.

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Re: Death Dates Please!
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 18 June 14 04:00 BST (UK) »
Hi JM,

Thank you for the info, the last known date Carl was in Victoria was July 1957, I have nothing else on him or his wife after that date...so I am still wondering did they stay there or did they retrun to Tasmania.....I am at a total loss.

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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 18 June 14 06:54 BST (UK) »
Ok

This is what I can see:

Birth
Carl Christian Jos KOPPELMAN, 1 Mar 1884
Father's Name:   John Koppelman
Mother's name:   Dorothea Betein
Registration Place:   New Norfolk, Tasmania
Registration Number:   2243

A birth with same parents:
Mina Louisa Paulina KOPPELMAN
1880, parents:    John, Dorothea Sophia BATTEAN,  New Norfolk, Tasmania

I cannot see a birth for a Charles Edward COPPLEMAN or KOPPELMAN

Marriage:
1907, Tasmania #0976
Evelyn Rubina Ivy WILLIAMS
Carl COPPLEMAN

WW1 record shows:
Carl Edward joined the AIF on 1918 and gives his age as 33 years and 5 months and a birthdate of 29 February 1885.  This date cannot be correct as 1885 was not a leap year - Carl Christian's d o b is 1 March 1884, which was a leap year - quite a co-incidence.
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/index.aspx

There is another record - undigitised unfortunately and only date given is 1914-1918 - where Carl Edward KOPPLEMAN had been rejected for war service owing to German parentage.

Please can you tell us about the last sighting of the couple you are seeking in Beechworth.

It would seem to me that Carl Christian and Charles Edward are the same person.  I have listed a marriage for Evelyn Rubina Ivy WILLIAMS and it would be a co-incidence if there were two separate marriages for the same woman to two separate men with such similar names - however it is possible.

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« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 18 June 14 07:17 BST (UK) »
Cemetery listing Malbina General, Tasmania
http://gravesoftas.com.au/municipalities/New%20Norfolk/Malbina%20General.htm
Alfred Carl COPPLEMAN
Charles Edward COPPLEMAN
Charles Edward COPPLEMAN
E I COPPLEMAN
L G COPPLEMAN
Rubeena Ivy COPPLEMAN
J W KOPPELMAN
Ethel KOPPLEMAN
W KOPPLEMAN
Walter Henry KOPPLEMAN

Yes, that's Charles Edward Coppleman listed twice in that index. 

Cheers,  JM
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« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 18 June 14 07:29 BST (UK) »
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/26173032 1 March 1946 The Mercury,

Carl Edward  Koppleman   in Tasmania  ;D

The horse was owned by ....... and the cow by Carl Edward Koppleman

Yes, Judith's suggestion re one person .....

Carl Edward or Charles Edward  :) could well be one person  :)

Cheers,  JM
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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 18 June 14 08:19 BST (UK) »
Electoral Rolls - 
Rubina Ivy and Charles Edward COPPLEMAN, farmer, in Robina (near Bright) Vic in 1931

1936, 1937 Carl Edward and Rubina COPPLEMAN  are in Malbina, Tasmania.

In 1943, 1949, 1954 Rubina's address is listed as Molesworth, Carl Edward still in Malbina

I cannot see any later entries for them - Rubina died 1957.  There is a Charles Edward Lyall COPPLEMAN in Hobart in 1936-1954.

The Australian Cemetery Index only shows the burials for a Charles, Rubeena and their son as I have already given, plus others with the same surname.  Sometimes a person is listed twice as a cross-reference with someone related.

I see no other recorded entries for a Rubeena/Rubina COPPLEMAN anywhere.

And following on from JM - the two charged men were quite naughty - painting a horse and a cow, indeed  :o  Well, it was New Year's Eve, which wouldn't have made the horse and cow any happier.  ::)

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