Author Topic: Alexander McKenzie b 1798 North Erradale, Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty.  (Read 21632 times)

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This man was my 2 x great grandfather. His father was apparently Duncan 'Ban' McKenzie, a Weaver, b  Gairloch abt 1779 (?) and his mother Jessie Jannett McDonald b abt 1779 Resolis, Ross and Cromarty. I have a copy of their marriage 'at Ineloid' in August 1807. I have never found where or what Ineloid was. Alexander was one of 14 children, and sometime before 1825 he, his sisters Margaret b 13 May 1815 Mevaig; Anna b 30 Aug 1803 North Erradale; and brother Donald Duncan b 1 Jan 1812 Melvaig; went to Nova Scotia, where they settled in Boularderie. Alexander married Ann Fraser in Nova Scotia abt 1825 - Ann was supposedly from Ross and Cromarty, and her parents were apparently James Fraser and Barbara Cameron. Alexander's sister Margaret married Roderick 'Rory Bhui' McLean in 1838 at Boularderie (Roderick was born 04 Mar 1815 and his parents were Murdoch McLean and Catherine McLennan. Alexander's sister Anna married Norman Mhor McDonald, b Jun 1811 at Redpoint, Gairloch - his parents were Murdoch McDomald and Margaret Fraser. Anna and Norman married in (I assume) Boularderie in 1831. The brother Donald Duncan marr Mary McLennan at Cape Breton in 1831 - Mary was born in Gairloch 25 Dec 1820 - I don't know who her parents were.

All of these stayed in Boularderie until 1857 when they travelled aboard the Breadalbane to New Zealand. Alexander took a family of seven, including to of his sons husbands.

Brothers and sister that I think stayed in Scotland were: John Mackenzie 1800 – ? Murdoch McKenzie 1806 – ? William McKenzie 1810 - ? Roderick McKenzie 1816 – 1880, John McKenzie
1819 – 1874, Duncan McKenzie 1822 – ? Murdoch McKenzie 1825 – 1901 John McKenzie 1826 – 1874 John McKenzie 1826 – 1901, Catharine 'Kate' McKenzie 1828 – ?

Is anyone out there researching this family? Or does anyone have any suggestions? I had a relative Chrissie McIvor (who was Chrissie McKenzie I think) she was married to Jock McIvor, but unfortunately I was too slow getting to Scotland, and never met them.

Eager to find out more about our Scottish connection.
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Jan Moon
 
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Re: Alexander McKenzie b 1798 North Erradale, Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty.
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 26 June 14 23:26 BST (UK) »
As it's usual for marriages to be held in the parish where the bride's parents live I've looked at an historic map of Resolis Parish, R&C, to see if there's an old farm with the name of Ineloid where a ceremony might have taken place, but altho' the cartographer has drawn some outlying properties he hasn't put a name to them.  Here's the url of the map:-

http://www.scottish-places.info/parishes/parmap202.html

As Resolis is on the Black Isle, I've also looked at a list of place names, which includes farms.  However, as explained on the page, this list doesn't include names which no longer exist.

http://website.lineone.net/~davghalgh/bislegaz.html

I thought it unusual for a place name to end in "oid" but I see there's one place in Invernes-shire with the name of "Kinloid Farm", it's a caravan holiday place and I haven't looked to see if the name is modern or if it's historic.

You say that other people have seen the 1807 handwriting and agree on it being "Ineloid.  It could be that the vicar was new and wasn't a Highlander, thus didn't have the Gaelic, so wrote what he thought he heard.  In case "Ineloid";  "Ine" and "Loid" could be translated I went onto a Gaelic translation site - all I can say is that there's a faint chance part of the word could be translated as "straight line"  :-\

I hope somebody comes along soon who is able to help.
Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy: MidLothian: Mason,Telford,Darling,Cruikshanks,Bennett,Sime, Bell: Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar; Ross: Urray:Mackenzie:  Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell: Perthshire: Brown Ferguson: Wales: McCarthy, Thomas: England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Well(es). Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells;Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke

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Re: Alexander McKenzie b 1798 North Erradale, Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty.
« Reply #2 on: Friday 27 June 14 00:19 BST (UK) »
A longshot:   could the place name be "married In Leod" ?  Only 12 miles away there's a MacKenzie Castle Leod in Fodderty, presumably it had servants and a hamlet attached to it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cromartyshire

Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy: MidLothian: Mason,Telford,Darling,Cruikshanks,Bennett,Sime, Bell: Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar; Ross: Urray:Mackenzie:  Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell: Perthshire: Brown Ferguson: Wales: McCarthy, Thomas: England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Well(es). Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells;Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke

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Re: Alexander McKenzie b 1798 North Erradale, Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty.
« Reply #3 on: Friday 27 June 14 07:32 BST (UK) »


Can you scan the relevant part of the marriage certificate and let us see the handwriting?
(I was wandering round Resolis yesterday and am now intrigued!)



MacKenzie
MacLeod
Mathesons in U.S.
MacLeay


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Re: Alexander McKenzie b 1798 North Erradale, Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty.
« Reply #4 on: Friday 27 June 14 09:35 BST (UK) »
Will do as soon as I find it - we moved house 18 months ago, and I'm still rediscovering things - just knew I put all the important stuff away myself!
Regards Jan
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Michigan: Coleman, Goodson
Newport Mon: Hopes, Evans Haines Ball Harris
Louth/Sleaford: Goodson Cartwright Crosby Burkitt Pacey + others
Norfolk Palmer, Smith, Moore
Ross Shire: McKenzie Fraser McDonald McLennan
Ayrshire: Wallace Patrick Dickson

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Re: Alexander McKenzie b 1798 North Erradale, Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty.
« Reply #5 on: Friday 27 June 14 11:07 BST (UK) »
Here is the marriage - I have missplaced the actual copy but this a sniped piece of the document. I misremembered, Duncan was a Weaver of Melvaig, and it was Jannet's father John McDonald who was 'at Ineloid' - I don't know where I remembered Jessie from either :)

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Jan
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Tampa, Florida: Goodson
Michigan: Coleman, Goodson
Newport Mon: Hopes, Evans Haines Ball Harris
Louth/Sleaford: Goodson Cartwright Crosby Burkitt Pacey + others
Norfolk Palmer, Smith, Moore
Ross Shire: McKenzie Fraser McDonald McLennan
Ayrshire: Wallace Patrick Dickson

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Re: Alexander McKenzie b 1798 North Erradale, Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty.
« Reply #6 on: Friday 27 June 14 13:31 BST (UK) »

Well, it certainly looks like "Ineleod".

Comparing it with the "MacLeod" three lines up, the last letters seem to match.

Hmm! Needs more thought.
MacKenzie
MacLeod
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MacLeay

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Re: Alexander McKenzie b 1798 North Erradale, Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty.
« Reply #7 on: Friday 27 June 14 14:00 BST (UK) »
As I said I've chewing on this for years. I find it hard to find many of the people that my cousin listed for me.
Perhaps her memory was a little short?
Regards
Jan
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Tampa, Florida: Goodson
Michigan: Coleman, Goodson
Newport Mon: Hopes, Evans Haines Ball Harris
Louth/Sleaford: Goodson Cartwright Crosby Burkitt Pacey + others
Norfolk Palmer, Smith, Moore
Ross Shire: McKenzie Fraser McDonald McLennan
Ayrshire: Wallace Patrick Dickson

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Re: Alexander McKenzie b 1798 North Erradale, Gairloch, Ross and Cromarty.
« Reply #8 on: Friday 27 June 14 17:11 BST (UK) »
I've been on this Gaelic translate to English website

http://glosbe.com/gd/en/Ine

and entered "Ine"

The result is a list of words on the LH side and clicking on "ine" takes me to this page:

http://glosbe.com/gd/en/%C3%ACne  ( :-\  oops don't know what that gobbledegook is)

... anyway the translation page shows that "ine" has several general means such as "claw";  "hoof"; "nail"; "talon", etc.

If "Leod" refers to the clan of Leod (McLeod).   There could be several meanings of "Ineleod" such as a piece of land shaped like a curved claw, or the name of a house when its original owner had certain characteristics or trade.
Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy: MidLothian: Mason,Telford,Darling,Cruikshanks,Bennett,Sime, Bell: Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar; Ross: Urray:Mackenzie:  Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell: Perthshire: Brown Ferguson: Wales: McCarthy, Thomas: England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Well(es). Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells;Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke