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Bartholomew (Batt) Conelly
« on: Monday 30 June 14 08:45 BST (UK) »
I am trying to track Australian information about Bartholomew Conelly, son of Catherine Burchell and her first husband Denis Conelly.
DENIS and CATHERINES children.

   PETER JAMES CONNOLLY of Ballynatone

      Baptised 6 Jan 1860 Castlehaven and Myross RC

   MICHAEL CONOLLY
      Baptised 12 Feb 1862 Castlehaven and Myross RC didn't come to Australia.

   BARTHOLOMEW CONELLY
      Born about 1864,No information about birth or Baptism. Information about his age is       from the immigration passenger list.
   
   MARY CONNELLY
      Baptised 3 Nov 1867 Castlehaven and Myross RC

Catherine Conelly arrived in Australia on board the “Gresham” with Mary age 1, Bartholomew 3 and Peter age 6.

In 1893 Bartholomew married Rose Walsh #2501
they had two children that I know of
1894 Edmund Thomas Valentine Conelly
1897 Margeurite Philomena Conelly
in 1903 he was living in Brunswick with Rose, he was an Engine Fitter.
in 1905  Rose died in Footscray
in about 1930 he appears to have moved to Buninyong possibly retired but still describing himself as an Engine fitter in the electoral roll of 1931.
1942 is his last appearance in Buninyong still calling himself an engine fitter at 78.
Then there is nothing, I have checked at Buninyong and his death or burial doesn't seem to appear, though I could have missed an odd spelling of Conelly, nothing at Ballarat either. It would just be nice to know what happened to him.
The other question is what happened to his children, they are born, Mum dies and then absolutely nothing.
I think I will eventually find Bartholomew around Ballarat or Buninyong with a bit more leg work,  but why did his kids just vanish. Did they go into an orphanage, get fostered by his brother or sister, I can't find any evidence for either.
Bartholomew was known as Batt to his wider family, my mum describes him as a bit of a mystery and says that he may have been in NSW for a time. That may have been after Rose died but there's no evidence for that.
The Irish end of his story is a subject for a post in the appropriate place eventually.

thanks, rusted
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Re: Bartholomew (Batt) Conelly
« Reply #1 on: Monday 30 June 14 08:54 BST (UK) »
Hi rusted,

Maybe your fella in NSW  ???

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/14667437?

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Re: Bartholomew (Batt) Conelly
« Reply #2 on: Monday 30 June 14 09:07 BST (UK) »
An online tree gives this birth for him, taken from FamilySearch so it is reliable.

   Bartholemy CONOLY
Birth Date:   5 Aug 1864
Birth Place:   Unionhall, Cork, Ireland
Father's Name:   Denis Conoly
Mother's name:   Catherine Burchill
FHL Film Number:   101094

Judith

Edit to add - there seems to be a couple of men of this name in NSW.
DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
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Re: Bartholomew (Batt) Conelly
« Reply #3 on: Monday 30 June 14 09:15 BST (UK) »
The online tree has photos of Catherine with some of her children, photo of her house in Buninyong,  a death notice for her which gives name of her children.

Judith
DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
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Re: Bartholomew (Batt) Conelly
« Reply #4 on: Monday 30 June 14 09:24 BST (UK) »

Is this your family?

WW1 Thomas Edmund  CONNELLY #1739 b. Brunswick 21yrs 2 months at Jan 1925
died Lone Pine 6 9 Aug 1915
NOK sister Rita CONNELLY of 51 then 601 King St Melbourne
Roll of Honour has father B. CONNELLY 46 Burnie St Clovelly NSW


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Re: Bartholomew (Batt) Conelly
« Reply #5 on: Monday 30 June 14 09:30 BST (UK) »
I have wondered if the NSW thing was him, no real way to say. But it could be, mum did say something about prison.
The on line trees one of them is mine,  Catherine Burchell is my G G Grandmother, until I really had a serious look for Bartholomew we had absolutely nothing on him, we knew he existed, thats all, then I found his wife and kids and various electoral rolls, thats as far as we have managed to go.
I have been to Buninyong but ran out of time the day I was there, at Ballarat I have had a good look at various times but can't find his death.
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Re: Bartholomew (Batt) Conelly
« Reply #6 on: Monday 30 June 14 09:36 BST (UK) »
@ wivenhoe
I would have said no. But they just might be an aunt and cousin of Bartholomew or in fact Bartholomew himself, They are certainly worth investigating, My GG Grandfather was Edmund Henry Collas, Bartholomew moved from Brunswick to King St west and then to Footscray. so worth a look.

Edit:    Actually the other way around, Brunswick then Footscray then 601 King St after Rose died. so yes it looks like they are family, thats a whole new branch of the family. I have no idea how they fit in yet. With the Clovelly NSW address I might be able to get somewhere with the NSW court records too. It also might give me a lead on where he went to die. fantastic.
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Re: Bartholomew (Batt) Conelly
« Reply #7 on: Monday 30 June 14 10:41 BST (UK) »
The NSW/Qld ones that I see on the Australian death index are well before your chap's last sighting, and have the double 'n' spelling.

Bartholomew Connelly
1881   Queensland,parents:   Martin, Mary   
   
Bartholomew Connelly
1886   Petersham, NSW   

Bartholomew Connolly
1859   Sydney, NSW parents: Bartholomew, Mary   
   
Bartholomew Connolly
1913   Newtown, NSW parents: Bartholomew, Mary      

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DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
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Re: Bartholomew (Batt) Conelly
« Reply #8 on: Monday 30 June 14 10:54 BST (UK) »
Death notice for Edmund Thomas Connelly  http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article140694194

DIED ON SERVICE,
CONNELLY. —Killed in action, between 6th and
9th August, 1915 -(previously reported missing),
Private Edmund Thomas Connelly, beloved only
son of B. Connelly and the late Rose Connelly;

brother of Reta,, and grandson of Mrs. E. Collas,
of Buninyong, aged 21 years.R.I.P. New
South, Wales .papers please .copy.. - . (Inserted .by
.his loving father and sister ...... King street, W.
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