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1841, 1851 census lookup
« on: Wednesday 02 July 14 03:47 BST (UK) »
Trying to track down 1841 and 1851 census for family of Thomas (Mortimer?) Walters born 1840 Newcastle upon Tyne, mother Jane, father Thomas Walters (married at Liverpool 1838).

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Re: 1841, 1851 census lookup
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 02 July 14 03:59 BST (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat, their is this possible 1841:-

Thomas Walters 30 occ ? Dealer Not born in county
Jane 25 b Ireland
Thomas 9 months Not born in county
Residing with an Elizabeth & Wm Parker in Hanover Street, Sheffield
Census Ref HO107/1333/ 8/45 / 40

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Re: 1841, 1851 census lookup
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 02 July 14 08:40 BST (UK) »
 Son Horatio Rowley Walters born 1842 B M D records Oct 1842 Chorlton Lancashire
He is in the 1851 census with his Uncle George McMaster aged 37 born Ireland  ( mothers brother ) and aunt Jani  McMaster aged 30 Horatio Watters ..aged 9 yrs at Toxteth Park St James Lancashire

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Re: 1841, 1851 census lookup
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 02 July 14 08:57 BST (UK) »
 :) That's a great find, cannot locate in 1861 readily but in 1871 Horatio R Walters 28 occ Master Mariner b Manchester is married to a Mary Jane 30 with 3 month old Florence M both born Liverpool residing at Stanhope Street, Toxteth Park
Census ref RG10/3794/14/21

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Re: 1841, 1851 census lookup
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 02 July 14 09:14 BST (UK) »
Yes having the same problem on 1861 census parents married 1838 Liverpool hard to make out but think Thomas Walters who married Jane McMaster was a Tailor ? his father occupation was upholster  :)

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Re: 1841, 1851 census lookup
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 02 July 14 10:05 BST (UK) »
Maddy do you have Thomas in other census forms ? this chap is hard to find  ???

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Re: 1841, 1851 census lookup
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 02 July 14 11:57 BST (UK) »
Thanks all for helping so quickly!

I know Thomas (b 1840) moved to Australia before 1864. On his marriage certificate he has his father Thomas occupation as draper.

According to parents' marriage cert (1838, Liverpool), Thomas Walters (father also Thomas) and Jane Mcmaster (father Andrew) were both born c1817. Thomas lists his residence a "Liverpool, Lancaster, Chester", and Jane's is "Liverpool".

Thomas Mortimer Walters died 1844 Chorlton, Lancashire - I thought this was the grandfather, but maybe the father?  (So many Thomas Walters!)

Didn't know about the brother - but Thomas' (in Australia) first child was named Horatio (died an infant) and a later son John Rowley.

I have a reference to a Thomas Walters age 11 at Newcastle upon Tyne in the 1851 census, but I'm not sure who else is in the household. (Also Thomas Waters age 1 at Newcastle upon Tyne in 1841 census?).

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Re: 1841, 1851 census lookup
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 02 July 14 12:32 BST (UK) »
Hi again, the 1851 Thomas was born Woolwich, Kent HO107/2406/307/24 Plus wrong parents, the Thomas WATERS b Northumberland parents Thomas & Margaret HO107/848/ 6/11 / 15

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PS Wish I could read the first part of the occupation in the 1841 I posted!?
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Re: 1841, 1851 census lookup
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 02 July 14 12:56 BST (UK) »
Thanks Keyboard,

Your 1841 find sounds likely - especially if Jane is from Ireland as suggested by brother George in 1851 census - although I don't know what they'd be doing in Sheffield?