1841, 1851 census lookup

[rosie17]

Hi Maddy at least we are going in the right direction do you have a date of birth for George as I think somewhere a long the line it said he was born 1839 ???mistake somewhere ?
Going by who we think was Thomas down as Mortimer living with James Penrose and Eliza Penrose ,who happens to be Eliza Walters her marriage in 1831 in Birmingham there is a birth in 1805 in Bilston for this Eliza parents Thomas Walters mother Fanny... His occupation is either clother or clothes ? they also had a Thomas born 1806 just a thought

[rosie17]

So it was her then 

[maddys52]

Hi Rosie, Thomas and Jane's ages at their marriage in 1838 was 21 (pretty sure), so the Thomas born 1806 at Bilston would probably be out by about 10 years, a bit too much I think?

[rosie17]

Yes your right was not thinking there 

[maddys52]

Is this possible ? could he have been down as his middle name 
1851 census Church Street Civil Parish Bilston
James Penrose 45, schoolmaster wife Eliza Penrose son William Penrose
Edward Rush 28 servant
Joseph Price 13, pupil ,  Thomas Price 11, pupil ,  Joseph Churchill 10. pupil.  John Hosten 10 pupil
Mortimer Walters 11 ( nephew ) born Manchester Lancashire ........
Mary Whitehouse , Mary Williams , Eliza pruden all servants

Hi Rosie,
Just wondering if the 1851 census for the Penrose's gives the place of birth and age for Eliza? Am assuming it was near Bilston - is this correct?
(Interesting too - I think they had a daughter Mary Jane b 1835 who married their servant Edward Rush in 1855.)

[rosie17]

Hi Maddy
                 Gives birth year of Eliza as 1805 Bilston Staffordshire and James 1806 Sedgly Staffordshire 

[maddys52]

Thanks again Rosie!

[maddys52]

Just wondering if it would be possible to check 1861 census for James Walters b 1813, Bilston listed as "brother" at All Saints Northampton? Wondering who else is in the house with him, if he's the brother of Thomas and Eliza (parents Thomas and Fanny - haven't quite given up on them yet), might show whether he's my Thomas or not?

Thanks in advance.

[rosie17]

Hi Maddy
1861 census All Saints Northampton
Joseph Walters Head married aged 39 occupation Hatter ?born Bilston

Elizabeth Walters wife aged 38
Susannah Walters brothers wife aged 46
James Walters brother occupation Baker born Bilston