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Birth certificate
« on: Thursday 03 July 14 07:01 BST (UK) »
George Raymond Schofield married Leila M P Fullinger on 26 April 1939, I have the certificate, his father is James Percival Schofield. His death certificate says George was born on the 20 January 1915, Bournemouth. I am unable to find his birth certificate or his fathers marriage certificate anywhere, can anyone help please.

Mary
Alley, Nottingham, Wandsworth, London
Brookes,  Sneinton, LondonNottinhamshire, Leicestershire
Cochrane, Glasgow, London
Caley, Durham, Yorkshire
Schofield, London, Hampshire
Solomon, London, Portsmouth
Williams Mary Ann, Middlesex
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Bramley, Loughorough,  Leicestershire, Ireland, Scotland

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Re: Birth certificate
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 03 July 14 07:59 BST (UK) »
Hi Mary

Information on death certificates is all down to the knowledge of the informant and may not always be accurate.

Who was the informant and what was the relationship?

Do you know that the date of birth is accurate?

Dawn
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Re: Birth certificate
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 03 July 14 08:10 BST (UK) »
I got the information from find my past.
Mary
Alley, Nottingham, Wandsworth, London
Brookes,  Sneinton, LondonNottinhamshire, Leicestershire
Cochrane, Glasgow, London
Caley, Durham, Yorkshire
Schofield, London, Hampshire
Solomon, London, Portsmouth
Williams Mary Ann, Middlesex
Twelftree
Bramley, Loughorough,  Leicestershire, Ireland, Scotland

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Re: Birth certificate
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 03 July 14 08:18 BST (UK) »
Where was his father living in 1911.  I see there is a possibility for a Lambeth birth for him & a Bournemouth death. 

I think the entry on FindMyPast only gives the reg district that he died and not where he was born, you would need the death certificate for that. Even then the information given by the informant cannot be guaranteed correct.

Rosie
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Re: Birth certificate
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 03 July 14 08:30 BST (UK) »
Born in Dec 1876Lambeth RD, his father may be in Aldershot in 1911
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Re: Birth certificate
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 03 July 14 08:33 BST (UK) »
That looks like the right James Percival, because there is this entry in Probate index-

James Percival Schofield of 10a Prince of Wales Road Westbourne Bournemouth died 27 Jan 19 54 Probate to George Raymond Schofield incorporated accountant. Effects £5496  1s 11d
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Birth certificate
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 03 July 14 08:37 BST (UK) »
Born in Dec 1876Lambeth RD, his father may be in Aldershot in 1911

Certainly in Aldershot in 1901
RG 13  610  104  54

H/H of Annie Cooper, widow
James P Schofield 24 single boarder Cycle tyre repairer bn Camberwell
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Birth certificate
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 03 July 14 08:40 BST (UK) »
At this stage, as we can't find a birth for George & a marriage for James, it looks like George may be illegitmate and registered under his mothers surname or born abroad so doesn't appear in the records.

His father seems to have acknowledged him as his son as he is named as the executor on the 1954 probate entry.

They were all certainly in the Bournemouth area by 1939 for George's marriage.
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Re: Birth certificate
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 03 July 14 08:51 BST (UK) »
A copy of James Percivals Will may (or may not) help, to see how he refers to George.

(I had a very helpful Will of one of my ancestors once, whereby he referred to the son as "born to xxxxx before marriage but I acknowledge him as my son". The son had used his mums maiden name as his surname throughout his life, but took his fathers surname after this. I always wondered if he never knew who his father was until he acknowledged him in this way, after his death, and thought if that was the case it was very sad. Sorry, an aside!)
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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