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Re: Meagher/Maher, Mullingar, Westmeath
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 09 July 14 20:45 BST (UK) »
Stepfather?

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Re: Meagher/Maher, Mullingar, Westmeath
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 09 July 14 20:52 BST (UK) »
Stepfather?

She gave her father's name as Michael Gray on her marriage.
If that census is the right family, her stepfather is Michael O'Hara. The possible marriage though for Anne Gray shows John O'Harah  :-\  Mary would have only been about 3 yrs old at that time.

However, the witnesses look to support all this theory.
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Re: Meagher/Maher, Mullingar, Westmeath
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 09 July 14 20:58 BST (UK) »
Stepfather?

She gave her father's name as Michael Gray on her marriage.
If that census is the right family, her stepfather is Michael O'Hara. The possible marriage though for Anne Gray shows John O'Harah  :-\  Mary would have only been about 3 yrs old at that time.

However, the witnesses look to support all this theory.
Sorry I'm totally confused now, which census record?

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Re: Meagher/Maher, Mullingar, Westmeath
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 09 July 14 21:00 BST (UK) »
Maybe the reason we can't find John Maher in 1901 is because he died!
One of these could be him
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Re: Meagher/Maher, Mullingar, Westmeath
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 09 July 14 21:06 BST (UK) »
Oh I see now, getting the census links mixed up

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Re: Meagher/Maher, Mullingar, Westmeath
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 09 July 14 21:09 BST (UK) »
Stepfather?

She gave her father's name as Michael Gray on her marriage.
If that census is the right family, her stepfather is Michael O'Hara. The possible marriage though for Anne Gray shows John O'Harah  :-\  Mary would have only been about 3 yrs old at that time.

However, the witnesses look to support all this theory.
Sorry I'm totally confused now, which census record?

Apologies - I gave links to the information but you would have to open them - I gave no names.

reply #9  - possible brother William Gray
possible marriage 1889 - Anne Gray and John O'Harah  - the name O'Harah came up previously for Mary's daughter Rose.

reply #12  Ann and Michael O' Hara in 1901 census.

In 1911 daughter is Rose O'Hara.

She looks to be a witness at the marriage of Mary and Michael along with William Gray.

Hope this explains it.

Then I gave a link  young Michael O'Hara as a WW1 Casualty.

heywood :)
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Re: Meagher/Maher, Mullingar, Westmeath
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 09 July 14 21:19 BST (UK) »
Yes, I imagine it would be understandable to make a name up - although it looks like a fairly small place where everyone probably knew everyone else's business.

So Mary's mother is very possibly Anne Grey, Michael may well not exist (unless as Sinann says he was her stepfather), there's a brother William and somehow the O'Hara's are connected possibly by a marriage to Anne?

Still wondering about the two girls - Annie and Rose, whose mothers maiden name is O'Hara, but living with Michael and Mary, and one of them - Rose - has a baptism record giving parents Michael Maher and Mary Grey.  If I work out how to get a decent copy saved I'll post it.

I have the printed forms to obtain BMD certs, either by fax or post - is it possible to use the Group Registration ID somewhere on those, or is there another way of ordering using those?  I've picked up a quarter, volume and page number for the various children of Michael and Mary, but the two potential births I am currently considering for Michael just have a year, volume and page but no quarter.
Mullingar, Westmeath Ireland: Gilligan/Wall/Meagher/Maher/Gray/O'Hara/Corroon (various spellings)
Bristol: Woodman/James/Derrick
Bristol/Somerset: Saunders/Wilmot
Gloucestershire:Woodman/Mathews/Tandy/Stinchcombe/Marten/Thompson
Wiltshire: Mathews
Carmarthen: Thomas, Lewis
Australia: Mary Lewis, transportee, married Henry Brown - what happened to her?

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Re: Meagher/Maher, Mullingar, Westmeath
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 09 July 14 21:25 BST (UK) »
Did we find Mary in 1901?
Mary isn't living with her mother and Michael O'Hara in 1901 so perhaps she is with her grand parents, her grandfather could be Michael Gray.

Stepfather idea was Heywood

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Re: Meagher/Maher, Mullingar, Westmeath
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 09 July 14 21:32 BST (UK) »
I think mother Anne married Mr O'Hara and is in 1901 and 1911 censuses and named on the Commonwealth War Graves certificate as mother of Michael J O'Hara.
(too many Michaels ::))

it is annoying that the marriage has John (if those possible spouses married)  but the census is Michael. It does seem unusual to have two illegitimate children - as you say - a small place  :-\
Maybe Anne was married/widowed but didn't show that on the birth certificate - although as Sinnan says, 'formerly' is crossed through.

As Mary would only be about 3 when her mother died, that may be why she used the name O'Hara on the birth certificates. I don't think we have her as Mary Gray in 1901 do we? She may be somewhere as Mary O'Hara.

There is a thread somewhere on the Irish boards which I think says you can use the Group Registration ID.
 
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