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Berean church
« on: Friday 18 July 14 20:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Everybody,
                   Could anybody give me any information on a Thomas Caird b. 1781 in Arbroath d. 1863 in Bridgeton Dist. Glasgow.
He was a Pastor or Minister of Berean Church in Glasgow is there any way of knowing how long he was practising religion. He did serve in the 92nd. Regiment ( Gordon  Highlanders ) around 1804 at Weeley Barracks in Essex. He was mentioned in the 1855-1856  Glasgow Post Office annual Directory Any other information would be appreciated.

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Re: Berean church
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 19 July 14 06:21 BST (UK) »
You might find information on Thomas Caird in the Fasti Ecclesiae Scoticanae.

Various volumes are available in pdf format on this site: http://www.dwalker.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Ministers%20Index.htm - volume 3 of 1920 covers Glasgow and has biographical details of ministers going back to the 1600s. (scroll about half way down the page to find it)

I don't know if there is a searchable index on one of the genealogy sites - the volume is 550 pages long and organised by church not by surname!

Good hunting
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Re: Berean church
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 19 July 14 07:05 BST (UK) »
Hi Philip,
            I will check out that info.you gave me
Thanks for that.

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Re: Berean church
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 19 July 14 09:00 BST (UK) »
If Thomas Caird was a Berean, you will not find information about him in Fasti Ecclesiae Scoticanae unless he also served for a time as a minister in the Church of Scotland.

The Bereans were a small sect founded in 1773 by John Barclay. They did not generally practise infant baptism*, which means that you will never find a Berean baptism register. Eventually they mostly merged with the Congregational Church.

*I have in my tree a family who were Bereans, which is the only reason why I have come across the Bereans before. The births of their children are meticulously recorded in the Church of Scotland parish registers. The first two, in 1793 and 1795, were baptised normally. The third was baptised in presence of the Berean congregation in 1797. Next, in 1800, Witnesses of the birth Mr William Bell, Berean Minister and George Dowie, Landholder. In 1802, Witnesses of the birth (the child's parents being Bereans) Mrs Skirving, midwife and Mrs Rae, spouse of Henry Rae, carrier, and similar listings in 1805, 1807. 1908 and 1812. Then in 1817 and 1823 The child not baptised, the parents being antipaedobaptists.

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Re: Berean church
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 19 July 14 12:22 BST (UK) »

See if any of these articles are your man. Minister's appointments were normally published.

http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/search/results?basicsearch=thomas%20caird


You could check Glasgow Graduates http://www.universitystory.gla.ac.uk/browse-graduates


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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 19 July 14 15:25 BST (UK) »
See if any of these articles are your man. Minister's appointments were normally published.
http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/search/results?basicsearch=thomas%20caird

Out of curiosity, I clicked the newspaper link you posted,and the first extract read: "have pleasure iu Intimating that have taken into Partnership Two Sods. Alexander and Thomas Caird"

Hmmmmm!  :o

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Re: Berean church
« Reply #6 on: Friday 29 June 18 17:57 BST (UK) »
You might find information on Thomas Caird in the Fasti Ecclesiae Scoticanae.

Various volumes are available in pdf format on this site: http://www.dwalker.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Ministers%20Index.htm - volume 3 of 1920 covers Glasgow and has biographical details of ministers going back to the 1600s. (scroll about half way down the page to find it)

I don't know if there is a searchable index on one of the genealogy sites - the volume is 550 pages long and organised by church not by surname!

Good hunting
Philip

This is perhaps too late to be of interest but there is an Index of Scottish Presbyterian Ministers which includes all the ministers listed in the Fasti Ecclesiae Scoticanae, Vols. 1-8, as well as those of other smaller Scottish Presbyterian denominations. You can get it at: http://ecclegen.com/general-index-general-index/

Thomas Caird, however, not being Presbyterian isn’t listed. However, he is a minister of the Berean Church in Glasgow according to the 1851 census. In 1841 he appears to be a flax dresser, living in Dundee.