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Re: Emily BERAN - Maiden Name
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 20 July 14 13:26 BST (UK) »
When did Emily die?

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Re: Emily BERAN - Maiden Name
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 20 July 14 13:28 BST (UK) »
2006 - see my reply #3! ;D
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Re: Emily BERAN - Maiden Name
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 20 July 14 13:36 BST (UK) »
Emily was born 11 September 1916, Anton was born 29th May 1913. Therefore Anton was older than her, and by the time they were married Anton was 40 and Emily was 37.


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Re: Emily BERAN - Maiden Name
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 20 July 14 14:44 BST (UK) »
Not the reply your looking for

Anton BERAN was Naturalised living at Hope Street Crewe

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/40857/page/4722/data.htm

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=C12189503

By Obtaining the 1953 marriage certificate, you will find
a) the address each party was living at, if Emily has a different address , searching the electoral roll should give an indication of a surname

b) if Emily had another surname it should be recorded together with her status ( my mother's is)

You do not state where in Cheshire Anton was!

My mother was a Crewe Girl, went into the Land Army based at Aldersley & Burtonwood, met a GI married him, divorced him & married a Gresty lad..... mother was born 1920 so not far off Emily's age....

Emily could have adopted the surname BERAN when the family lived together for respectability purposes........


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Re: Emily BERAN - Maiden Name
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 20 July 14 16:13 BST (UK) »
Could Anton have told a little white lie and been German  and not Yugoslavian /Austrian ?

I have found a Beran familytree from Bukovice,Germany 1829- 1920
http://en.geneanet.org/search/?page_size=20&ressource=arbre&vplist%5Bname%5D=&name=beran&nbindi=&country=&region=&subregion=&place=&annee_debut=1910&annee_fin=1920&source=&sub_frm53cbdafc2e0c4.x=14&sub_frm53cbdafc2e0c4.y=8&ajax_ok=1
Anton Beran is the 1832 born earliest in the tree
http://gw.geneanet.org/sberan?lang=en&v=BERAN&m=N
do any of Antons children to his first wife match any in that tree ?
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Emily BERAN - Maiden Name
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 20 July 14 16:35 BST (UK) »
Great find Elzabels.  This now establishes Anton's original nationality.  There were two main prisoner of war camps in the Crewe area for German soldiers. Crewe Hall housed German Officers and Snape Farm Weston housed other ranks. It is possible that this is how Emily met Anton. There were also other POW camps at Dorfold Hall, Nantwich and in the grounds of the Boars Head, Walgherton. Not to be ruled out in surrounding areas is the Racecourse Camp at Tarporley and Marbury Hall at Marbury, Northwich.  Also in Cheshire there were POW camps at Dunham Park, Altrincham and Madeley Tile Works on the Cheshire, Staffordshire Border. On the Wirral there was a camp at Parkgate and one at Ledsham Hall, Sutton.
I am not sure if there are any records for POW's which would show a possible match with a camp for Anton. Someone on Rootschat might be able to help.
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Davies/Calvert/Cheshire, Birkenhead/Yorkshire, Bowes
Fitzsimmons/Cheshire, Birkenhead/Lancashire, Liverpool/Ireland
Lewis/Cheshire,Spurstow, Bunbury, Little Budworth, Helsby/Birkenhead
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Dunnet, Caithness
Mowat/ Caithness
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Rosie/Caithness, Thurso
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Re: Emily BERAN - Maiden Name
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 20 July 14 18:07 BST (UK) »
As the OP knows the dob of Emily i.e q3 1916 he could ask GRO if there is any way of tracing her with this info.

Ot to get a list of all Emily b q3 1916 Crewe or CHeshire and tick them off until one fits!!!

Still think the purchase of the marriage cert is the next move! www.gro.gov.uk


I do not think she was necessarily born/ registered  in Crewe and the options of the camps open up a girl born in say Birkenhead!

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Re: Emily BERAN - Maiden Name
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 20 July 14 19:35 BST (UK) »
There's about 46 Emily's born in September qtr, 1913, Cheshire!

Surname   Forename   Mother’s Maiden Name   District   Vol   Page
Bancroft    Emily    Shufflebotham    Bucklow  8a   381
Boden    Emily    Hough    Northwich  8a   518
Booth    Emily    Wood    Stockport  8a   95
Broad    Emily    Condliffe    Congleton  8a   584
Brown    Emily    Brown    Stockport  8a   164
Clarkson    Emily    Nolan    Stockport  8a   33
Coppenhall    Emily    Royle    Northwich  8a   531
Cotton    Emily    Jones    Wrexham  11b   461
Coyle    Emily A    O'Brien    Stockport  8a   147
Dalton    Emily    Lever    Stockport  8a   17
Darcy    Emily L    Fleet    Wirral  8a   655
Davenport    Emily    Hatton    Bucklow  8a   299
Davidson    Emily    Jones    Warrington  8c   334
Davies    Emily    Senior    Northwich  8a   501
Evans    Emily    Lewis    Wrexham  11b   475
Goodier    Emily    Sadler    Runcorn  8a   440
Gregg    Emily    Robbins    Warrington  8c   484
Hillidge    Emily    Wren    Runcorn  8a   437
Hulme    Emily    Bryant    Ashton  8d   899
Jones    Emily V    Hempkin    Birkenhead  8a   961
Kameen    Emily    Millington    Birkenhead  8a   1049
Kameen    Emily    Willington    Birkenhead  8a   1049
Mellor    Emily V    Copeland    Congleton  8a   585
Miller    Emily    Miller    Northwich  8a   467
Molyneux    Emily J    Bowers    Stockport  8a   110
Moran    Emily A    Bath    Chester  8a   733
Pantlin    Emily V    Paul    Birkenhead  8a   1019
Parsons    Emily    Rees    Birkenhead  8a   1037
Piercy    Emily E    Tushingham    Chester  8a   771
Pomfret    Emily    Farnworth    Ashton  8d   983
Pratt    Emily    Smith    Northwich  8a   477
Price    Emily    Baylis    Bucklow  8a   366
Rushton    Emily A    Cross    Birkenhead  8a   874
Sadler    Emily    Lowndes    Warrington  8c   405
Senior    Emily    Wood    Ashton  8d   1070
Sharp    Emily    Hayton    Wirral  8a   836
Shone    Emily    Moss    Stockport  8a   192
Smith    Emily    Swindells    Ashton  8d   1083
Smith    Emily    Haste    Warrington  8c   359
Sorensen    Emily    Bentley    Birkenhead  8a   955
Tomlinson    Emily R    Baker    Nantwich  8a   638
Vickers    Emily    Tildsley    Runcorn  8a   441
Wain    Emily    Woods    Stockport  8a   64
Welch    Emily    Bryan    Birkenhead  8a   1093
Worthington    Emily    Harrop    Runcorn  8a   418
Wroe    Emily    Price    Stockport  8a   139

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Re: Emily BERAN - Maiden Name
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 13 April 17 11:07 BST (UK) »

Other searches available now, but not in 2014, reveal . . . . .

1939 Crewe
Eleanor R Tatler                  1894 ( d 1943 Crewe? )
Frederick V Ward                1915 ( d 1948 Crewe? )
Emily Ward BERAN 11/Sep/1916


FreeBMD =
Marriages Sep 1939 Crewe     8a    1352
 Dale     Sam A     Smith
Smith     Bessie     Dale
Tatler     Emily              Ward
Ward     Frederick V     Tatler     


Of course, you may have found it by now?

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