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Re: Is this name Rees?
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 24 July 14 19:11 BST (UK) »
This is 1200 dpi res - they all seem to look the same to me!

It IS the same as it's still only 54 kb  ;D
In fact it's smaller than the previous one  ;D
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Re: Is this name Rees?
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 24 July 14 19:19 BST (UK) »
I'm obviously not doing this properly!  Be right back, having a google for some how to do it instructions!
Mullingar, Westmeath Ireland: Gilligan/Wall/Meagher/Maher/Gray/O'Hara/Corroon (various spellings)
Bristol: Woodman/James/Derrick
Bristol/Somerset: Saunders/Wilmot
Gloucestershire:Woodman/Mathews/Tandy/Stinchcombe/Marten/Thompson
Wiltshire: Mathews
Carmarthen: Thomas, Lewis
Australia: Mary Lewis, transportee, married Henry Brown - what happened to her?

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Re: Is this name Rees?
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 24 July 14 19:47 BST (UK) »
fingers crossed....
Mullingar, Westmeath Ireland: Gilligan/Wall/Meagher/Maher/Gray/O'Hara/Corroon (various spellings)
Bristol: Woodman/James/Derrick
Bristol/Somerset: Saunders/Wilmot
Gloucestershire:Woodman/Mathews/Tandy/Stinchcombe/Marten/Thompson
Wiltshire: Mathews
Carmarthen: Thomas, Lewis
Australia: Mary Lewis, transportee, married Henry Brown - what happened to her?

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Re: Is this name Rees?
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 24 July 14 20:09 BST (UK) »
Well done Lisa :)
I still reckon the vicar's initial is an R - it doesn't look like the B in Banns and the supposed R in the father's name doesn't look like the vicar's initial but maybe it is just erratic writing! You really do need that original entry from the Parish Records to  be sure.
As you can't find Harriet in earlier censuses I agree with Gadget that she may be illegitimate or mum remarried.

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Re: Is this name Rees?
« Reply #31 on: Friday 25 July 14 09:03 BST (UK) »
This might be worth following up:

1841
HO107/1385/2/8/9
Lansant/Llansaint, St Ishmael
David Thomas, 65, shoemaker
Elizabeth, 69
Hariet, 12, (Lodger crossed out)
All b. county

1851
HO107/2472/336/11
Llansaint
Elizabeth Thomas, wid, 78, Cordwainer wife parish relief, b. Llanstephan
Harriet Thomas, nephew!, 22 (in female col), gathering coals, b. Pembrey



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Re: Is this name Rees?
« Reply #32 on: Friday 25 July 14 20:54 BST (UK) »
Thanks Gadget - will take a look at those
Mullingar, Westmeath Ireland: Gilligan/Wall/Meagher/Maher/Gray/O'Hara/Corroon (various spellings)
Bristol: Woodman/James/Derrick
Bristol/Somerset: Saunders/Wilmot
Gloucestershire:Woodman/Mathews/Tandy/Stinchcombe/Marten/Thompson
Wiltshire: Mathews
Carmarthen: Thomas, Lewis
Australia: Mary Lewis, transportee, married Henry Brown - what happened to her?

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Parents not married?
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 12 October 14 16:32 BST (UK) »
I have a Welsh ancestor who is causing me a bit (well, a lot!) of trouble.

I have her marriage certificate, she married in Bristol, England in 1865. Her age as given on the 1871 census onwards would give her a birth year of 1831 and place of birth Carmarthen. I have a possible match for her in the 1861 census, but have so far been unsuccessful with both the 1841 and 1851 in either Wales or England.

My first thought on seeing the certificate for her fathers name was Rees Thomas.  I've come to doubt that a bit and am no longer so sure.

Edit: link to a previous thread re the fathers name http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=693334.0

I have found a potential baptism for her on familysearch.org but this has her down as Harriet Thomas or Lewis. Would this suggest that her parents were not married?

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X1TW-1B4
Mullingar, Westmeath Ireland: Gilligan/Wall/Meagher/Maher/Gray/O'Hara/Corroon (various spellings)
Bristol: Woodman/James/Derrick
Bristol/Somerset: Saunders/Wilmot
Gloucestershire:Woodman/Mathews/Tandy/Stinchcombe/Marten/Thompson
Wiltshire: Mathews
Carmarthen: Thomas, Lewis
Australia: Mary Lewis, transportee, married Henry Brown - what happened to her?

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Re: Parents not married?
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 12 October 14 17:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Lisa

That link certainly fits with the marriage cert, where her  father was given as Rees Thomas.


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Re: Parents not married?
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 12 October 14 18:22 BST (UK) »

I have found a potential baptism for her on familysearch.org but this has her down as Harriet Thomas or Lewis. Would this suggest that her parents were not married?

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X1TW-1B4

I would say yes, these two parents were probably not married.
 
But I have emailed registrar's offices with a message like this: "I have a marriage cert from the GRO for x to y on such and such a date at such and such a church. I am unable to read the father's Christian name and would be grateful if you could tell me what it says on your copy of the certificate."  Attach a scan of the cert you  have to show you're not trying to cheat, enclose your phone number and lots of pleases and thank yous.  I have had a very satisfactory response on at least two occasions.  If that does fail though, you could try emailing Bristol record office with the same sort of message and ask them to check the marriage in the parish records.
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