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elias and stephen Latham
« on: Wednesday 30 July 14 15:12 BST (UK) »
I am trying to solve a family mystery as to who was the family member who was killed in ww1 his name was either Elias or Stephen but I dont know his surname his mother was a sister to my gt grandmother and was one of three sisters  Mary Catherine Hewitt (or may have used Griffiths) Ann Griffiths or Agnes Griffiths I have found Henry Stephen Latham born 1895 and Elias Griffiths latham born 1890 both listed as living in  Queensferry as boarders with Mary catherine Griffiths This I found on the Flintshire War memorials site it gives conflicting information as to Stephens parents and it it is correct they are not mine. Henry Stephen was killed in ww1

If anyone can help with Elias and Stephen
Their parents and are they brothers or maybe cousins

Thanks  Carolyn
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Re: elias and stephen Latham
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 30 July 14 15:46 BST (UK) »
Is this the Elias Griffith Latham you mean - from the 1901 census: -

Elizabeth Barlow, 68, widow b Haworden
Elias Griffith Latham, 10, grandson
Evelyn Agnes Latham, 7 granddaughter both b Haworden

Ref: RG13/3377/74/19
GOATER, LAN, ALL
BOURKE, MAYO/ LAN
LONERGAN, TIP
McGREAL, MAYO
FLAHERTY, GALWAY/ ALL
HOUGH, LAN/ ALL

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Re: elias and stephen Latham
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 30 July 14 15:53 BST (UK) »
Carolyn can you post the details you have on the parents for Henry Stephen Latham?

Is this him on the 1901 census?

Paul Latham, 33 labourer b Queensferry
Mary J 34 b Dublin
Anna 13 b Dublin
Henry S 5 b Queensferry

Ref RG13/5212/130/47
GOATER, LAN, ALL
BOURKE, MAYO/ LAN
LONERGAN, TIP
McGREAL, MAYO
FLAHERTY, GALWAY/ ALL
HOUGH, LAN/ ALL

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Re: elias and stephen Latham
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 30 July 14 16:15 BST (UK) »
Hi  Elias Griffiths Latham with Elizabeth Barlow is spot on She was my Gt Gt grandmother her second husband was Joseph Barlow so Elias Griffiths Latham is correct and one of mine I now need to know which of her daughters was his mother with the Griffiths as a middle name could his mother have been single. and where Stephen fits in. My Mother gave me both the names Stephen and Elias years ago as she remembers one of them  from when she was a child
Carolyn
Hill,Griffiths,Davison,Hewitt,Foulkes, Flintshire
Hill, Assal,Thomas Cheshire/Flintshire
Brennan Queens county (Laois)
Hynnes Galway
Flood  Wicklow/Lancashire     Geogehan/Gahan Wicklow to Lancashire
Currie Monaghan/Scotland
Behan Kings and Kildare
Purcell Wexford/ co kilkenny
Hunt Wexford
Hoey Louth
Kean Ireland
Flannagan Kings County Offley
Leather Lancashire
Woodward Lancashire
Thomas Lancashire
Garnett lancashire
Haselden Lancashire
Singleton Lancashire


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Re: elias and stephen Latham
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 30 July 14 16:20 BST (UK) »
Still a bit confused about where Henry Stephen Latham fits in - do you have any info on his parents - you say it's conflicting?
GOATER, LAN, ALL
BOURKE, MAYO/ LAN
LONERGAN, TIP
McGREAL, MAYO
FLAHERTY, GALWAY/ ALL
HOUGH, LAN/ ALL

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Re: elias and stephen Latham
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 30 July 14 16:27 BST (UK) »
Possible marriage

Marriages Mar 1889   
Griffiths    Agnes         Chester    8a   494    
LATHAM    Alfred         Chester    8a   494

No parents listed, may have more info on FindMyPast, do not have access sorry

bapt. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KCRD-HHD

sister bapt https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KCRD-LMP

I think that possibly, Alfred and Paul were Latham brothers, so that would make them cousins?

Henry Stephen Latham bapt along with father Paul and Alfred is on F/S 

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Re: elias and stephen Latham
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 30 July 14 16:42 BST (UK) »
Do you think this might be them on 1891 census?

Alfred Latham 27 gen labourer
Agnes Latham 23
Eliza G Latham 0
Elizabeth Davies, 72 boarder widow
Edmund Davies, 10 boarder  all born Hawarden

Ref RG12/2869/70/14
GOATER, LAN, ALL
BOURKE, MAYO/ LAN
LONERGAN, TIP
McGREAL, MAYO
FLAHERTY, GALWAY/ ALL
HOUGH, LAN/ ALL

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Re: elias and stephen Latham
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 30 July 14 16:50 BST (UK) »
Do you think this might be them on 1891 census?

Alfred Latham 27 gen labourer
Agnes Latham 23
Eliza G Latham 0
Elizabeth Davies, 72 boarder widow
Edmund Davies, 10 boarder  all born Hawarden

Ref RG12/2869/70/14

I think that is spot on obv mistranscribed Elias as Eliza ?
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Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: elias and stephen Latham
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 30 July 14 16:55 BST (UK) »
That's what I thought :)

So Elias is the son of Agnes Griffiths - still not sure where Henry Stephen Latham fits in?
GOATER, LAN, ALL
BOURKE, MAYO/ LAN
LONERGAN, TIP
McGREAL, MAYO
FLAHERTY, GALWAY/ ALL
HOUGH, LAN/ ALL