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William Charles Neilson (1856) - where did he go?
« on: Thursday 31 July 14 16:21 BST (UK) »
Hi there

William Charles Neilson, born 15 Apr 1856 at 3 Abercromby Place, Edinburgh, second son of my Great Great Granduncle James Neilson and his wife Frederica Ann De Lisle disappears after the 1861 Census in Edinburgh.

Can anyone give me any pointers please?

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Re: William Charles Neilson (1856) - where did he go?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 01 August 14 12:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Chiad Fhear

Just a few questions.... :)

Do you have any of the family after 1861 or  in 1871?

Did his mother die 1859 Midlothian?
Did his sister Bessie (Elizabeth Murray Brown NEILSON) b 1855, die in 1865, Midlothian, age 10?
Do you know where his father is in 1871 (James NEILSON, Solicitor, b 1810 Fortingall, Perthshire) or had he died by then?
Where was the first son in 1861?

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Re: William Charles Neilson (1856) - where did he go?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 01 August 14 13:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Ambly

Thanks for your response. You're on the correct family  :)

JAMES NEILSON was born 19 May 1810 in Kirktown, Fortingall, Perthshire, and died 09 Mar 1868 in 16 Duke Street, St Andrew, Edinburgh, Edinburgh.  He married (1) FREDERICA ANNE ELIZA DE LISLE 26 Sep 1845 in Treesbanks House, Lanarkshire, daughter of ROBERT DE LISLE and FREDERICA MILLS.  She was born Abt. 1824 in Paris, France, and died 03 Nov 1859 in 3 Abercromby Place, St Andrew, Edinburgh, Midlothian.  He married (2) ANNE HELEN RATTRAY 02 Aug 1864 in St Andrew, Edinburgh, Midlothian, daughter of THOMAS RATTRAY and JANET NESS.  She was born Abt. 1821 in Bloomsbury, London, and died 12 Nov 1905 in Woodcliffe, Upper Bridge Street, Stirling, Stirlingshire.

Children of JAMES NEILSON and FREDERICA DE LISLE are:
i.   FREDERICA MARGARET ARCHER NEILSON, b. Abt. 1852, Edinburgh, Midlothian; d. 23 Feb 1930, 2 Closeburn Terrace, Feus Road, Tibbermore, Perth, Perthshire.
ii.   ROBERT DE LISLE NEILSON, b. Abt. 1854, Edinburgh, Midlothian; d. 03 Aug 1918, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia.
iii.   ELIZABETH MURRAY BROWN NEILSON, b. 21 Jan 1855, Edinburgh, Midlothian; d. 30 Mar 1865, 3 Abercromby Place, St Andrew, Edinburgh, Midlothian.
iv.   WILLIAM CHARLES NEILSON, b. 15 Apr 1856, 3 Abercromby Place, St Andrew, Edinburgh, Midlothian. - THE MYSTERY SON
1861 Census Residing at 3 Abercromby Place, St Mary, Edinburgh, Midlothian
v.   CECILIA CHARLOTTE SMYTH NEILSON, b. 26 Jul 1857, Edinburgh, Midlothian; d. 27 Feb 1859, 3 Abercromby Place, St Andrew, Edinburgh, Midlothian.

The first son ROBERT DE LISLE NEILSON was in the 1861 Census residing at Keith Park, Blairgowrie, Perthshire as a Boarder/Scholar in the home of Susan Inches, her sisters Jessie and Mary - Boarding School Teachers - as was his sister FREDERICA.


All the other siblings check out. I hope this helps?

Regards

Chiad Fhear
Aye mair questions than answers in a world where the past was a different place - that cannae be revisited!

Family surnames being researched ...
Crawford, Neilson, Lindsay, Reekie, Davidson
Drummond, Laing, Pearson, Tulloch ... will do for starters but there's a whole lot more!

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Re: William Charles Neilson (1856) - where did he go?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 03 April 15 11:16 BST (UK) »
I need to resurrect this - it's a real 'brick wall'

I found these notices in the Australian press:

"The Queenslander" Brisbane, Queensland : Saturday 19 March 1887
"Missing Friends, Messages, etc, 
ARTHUR CUBITT, "THE ARCADE," KING-STREET, SYDNEY.
MISSING FRIENDS AND GENERAL INQUIRY AGENT.
Certificates Obtained of Births, Deaths, and Marriages.  Copies of Wills and other Deeds Obtained.
Strictly Private Inquiries ...
HEIRS WANTED. — If ROBERT DE LISLE NEILSON and WILLIAM NEILSON, sons of the late James Neilson, Solicitor, Edinburgh, Scotland, will communicate with MESSRS. GIBSON & STRATHERN, W.S., 12 Charlotte-street, Edinburgh, Scotland, they will hear of something to their advantage. 
Any friends of the Messrs. Neilson are requested to communicate this advertisement to them"
[This notice appeared again in "The Queenslander" Brisbane, Queensland, on Saturday 26 March 1887, Saturday 2 April 1887, Saturday 9 April 1887]

"The Sydney Morning Herald" New South Wales : Friday 28 January 1887
"PERSONAL
WILLIAM CHARLES NEILSON, second son of the late James Neilson, solicitor, Edinburgh, last heard of in Auckland, New Zealand, by communicating with the undersigned will hear of something to his advantage.
LAURENCE and RICH, Solicitors, 35, Castlereagh-street, Sydney, N. S. W."[/i]

I now know that Robert died in Sydney N.S.W. on 3 Aug 1918, but can anyone shed any light on William - after the last find I have for him in the 1861 Census?

Regards

Chiad Fhear
Aye mair questions than answers in a world where the past was a different place - that cannae be revisited!

Family surnames being researched ...
Crawford, Neilson, Lindsay, Reekie, Davidson
Drummond, Laing, Pearson, Tulloch ... will do for starters but there's a whole lot more!

Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: William Charles Neilson (1856) - where did he go?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 03 April 15 12:00 BST (UK) »
Hi CF

Just adding the link to your new Australian post for background here www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=717293.0

Monica  :)
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Re: William Charles Neilson (1856) - where did he go?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 03 April 15 12:30 BST (UK) »
Thanks Monica - they'll all be in bed 'down under' now  :)
Aye mair questions than answers in a world where the past was a different place - that cannae be revisited!

Family surnames being researched ...
Crawford, Neilson, Lindsay, Reekie, Davidson
Drummond, Laing, Pearson, Tulloch ... will do for starters but there's a whole lot more!

Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: William Charles Neilson (1856) - where did he go?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 03 April 15 13:47 BST (UK) »
Interested to see what comes up from your new post  :)

Monica
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Re: William Charles Neilson (1856) - where did he go?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 03 April 15 14:01 BST (UK) »
Likewise Monica - James's results were accessed quite quickly through the Australian newspaper archives on TROVE. William is a mystery.

They're just 2 of the 42,480 others in my tree!

Appreciate you linking the posts together  ;)

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Family surnames being researched ...
Crawford, Neilson, Lindsay, Reekie, Davidson
Drummond, Laing, Pearson, Tulloch ... will do for starters but there's a whole lot more!

Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: William Charles Neilson (1856) - where did he go?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 03 April 15 14:48 BST (UK) »
A William C. Nielson died 1898 Hay, NSW??   No other details on entry.

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