Monmouthshire PR Transcripts

[woofas]

A couple of years ago I managed to find a site on Rootsweb containing many transcripts of PRs, which were very useful to the area I was searching at the time.  Now I want to find some further info but cannot find the site anywhere.  Surely it has not been deleted?  Can anyone help please?

[Rowley]

Yes sadly that site for Mon Parish Registers is no longer available, what info are you looking for? Some of us may be able to help, Rowley

[woofas]

I am looking for details of the two eldest children of John & Mary Morgan of Pen Y Clawdd.
Edith Mary Registered b Q3 1899, bap 21 Aug 1898 ?  possibly died 1903
Annie Elizabeth Reg b Q3 1900 Bap ? possibly died pre 1911 census

Any help much appreciated

[RayDen]

Edith Morgan is on the 1901 census with parents at Pen y clawdd and is not on the 1911 census.  There is a death in 1903 (from freebmd) for a Edith May Morgan Monmouth June Qtr 11a 23, but I can't see any other likely deaths for a Edith Mary. 

Similarly Annie Elizabeth is on the 1901 but not on the 1911 census.  Can't see any likely deaths for a Annie Elizabeth on Freebmd so she was probably registered under just Elizabeth?

In 1911 the family were in Ross but a son John aged 8 years was born in Montgomeryshire, Wales, and a daughter Lily May (1 year) was born Ross so Elizabeth may have died somewhere other than Monmouth.

Ray

[woofas]

Thanks for the info Ray although I did have most of it beforehand.
I particularly wanted to see the PRs for Pen y Clawdd to try to clarify the names, baptism & possible fate of the two oldest children.
Looks like another long trip to Cwmbran is necessary.
Fred

[RayDen]

Not Cwmbran anymore - the Gwent Archives are now at Ebbw Vale.

If I get up to Ebbw Vale in the next couple of weeks I will have a look for you but can't promise anything at present.

Ray

[RayDen]

Hi Fred

Went to Gwent Archives earlier today:

Edith Mary Morgan baptised 21 Aug 1898
Father John, occupation Hay Maker
Mother Mary
Lived at:  The Tump (looks like) Pen-y-Clawdd

Annie Elizabeth Morgan baptised 19 Aug 1900
Father John, occupation Hay Maker
Mother Mary
Lived at: The Tump. Pen-y-Clawdd

There also appeared to be a third child for John & Mary

Frederick William John Morgan baptised 12 April 1903
Father John, occupation Hay Cutter
Mother Mary
Lived at: The Tump, Pen-y-Clawdd

Unfortunately I did not take my camera so no photo's but will do that on my next visit.

Could not find any likely deaths on the the Pen-y-Clawdd records for the Morgan children and did not have time to look in other local churches, will try that on my next visit.  However as I said in earlier reply I cannot see any registered deaths in the exact names in Monmouthshire.

There was another Morgan family (a William Morgan I believe) baptising children and also living at "The Tump" Pen-y-Clawdd, and a farm labourer but did not have the time to follow that up.

Ray

[RayDen]

Have just looked at the 1911 census again for the John Morgan family - Ancestry has the place of birth for son John transcribed as "Penystrywaid, Montgomeryshire, Wales" - strange because the original clearly shows "Penyclawdd Mon".  So Frederick William John is shown as "John".

Ray

[woofas]

Hi Ray,
Thanks for all the information you have passed over to me.  It is really appreciated.
Edith Mary - I believe that she died Q2 1903 Monmouth RD although the registration details refer to Edith May.  Someone suggested that she was possibly buried in Trelleck.
Annie Elizabeth - there is a death registered Q3 1903 although the age stated is 0yrs which may be a mis-transcription of 3yrs.  This burial may also be in Trelleck.  Were there any burials at Pen y Clawdd around this time?
Frederick William John - thanks for his details, I had looked for "John" following the 1911 Census but would never have expected the other forenames.
It is strange that John snr should describe himself as "hay cutter" in 1911 & "hay trusser" in 1901 especially in early April, a long way from the hay season & a very time limited trade. a bit like calling yourself a snow clearer!
If you visit Ebbw Vale in the near future, I would appreciate it if you could have a quick look for the marriage of John Morgan & Mary??? around 1897 per 1911 census.
By the way, the William Morgan living close by was John's younger brother.
Regards
Fred