James Mathews 1869 Blackrock, Louth, Ireland

[Sinann]

I keep getting stuck with James married second wife Margaret White in 1909.

Is this James born 1866/69 father of Annie, James and John?

If so you have
John Mathews m ?
In Ireland
Their child James m Mary ?
Go to England
Their children Annie, James, John.
Mary ? Dies
James marries again to Margaret White
Go to America
Their children
Margaret, Desmond.

[AngelaRohlfs]

  Yes!! Lol exactly! I think John (eldest) had James (eldest) with Margaret McGuinness but not confirmed yet

[Sinann]

James' first wife.
Going back to page one I posted a likely marriage and 2 possible Mary's.
You didn't get that marriage cert, (well you have no real need of it)
I had a look on RootsIreland and there is a marriage for James Mathews to Mary Richardson 1888 Haggardstown RC. which matches your bible. So considering she is not direct family I think this can be considered sorted.

Now where did the name Margaret McGuinness come from for James' mother?

[AngelaRohlfs]

I found.a James Mathews born 1866 to John Mathews and Margaret Mc Guinness ... They 2 sons... James in 1866 & (yet another) John born 1868... I found in the 1891 census in England a Jas Mathews with wife Mary, daughter Anne and brother John in Birkenhead and although I haven't yet confirmed it I am thinking this is my James b 1866, 1st wife, daughter and brother and ages listed are accurate...  Am going to order marriage cert for aforementioned James and Mary you posted in the hopes I can get more info for James even though Mary isn't mine

[Sinann]

Unlikely you'll get anything more on that marriage cert, his mother's name won't be on it.

Where did you find that James born to John Mathews and Margaret McGuinness?

[AngelaRohlfs]

I have that information at home and will let you know after 6 Pacific.time =)

[Sinann]

I'll be fast asleep by then

[AngelaRohlfs]

Well I wish you sweet dreams and thank you again for everything. The info will be here when it's most convenient for you.

[AngelaRohlfs]

I did a search on Familysearch using the parameters James Mathews born 1866 - 1866 (this date has consistently come up most often even though family bible says 1869) in Louth, Ireland with a fathers name of John Mathews and the only one that comes up is one with Margaret Mc Guinness. Then I searched Margaret McGuinness and saw where John Mathews and she had 2 sons... a James Mathews born 1866 and a John Mathews born 1868. I found the 1891 England census that has a Jas Mathews (head) Mary (wife) Anne (daughter) and John (brother) all in Birkenhead with correct ages and I know that Anne was born in 1889 in Birkenhead. I haven't had the opportunity to see the census itself to make sure all are at the same location... I am currently going off the index. But, if I have it correct that would make the following correct

John Mathews m Margaret McGuinness and had children John (1868) and James (1866) m Mary ? and had Anne (1889) John and James (1894) then m Margaret White in 1909 and had Margaret (1915) and Desmond (1918)