Parish Relief

[wilcoxon]

I have a family in 1851, why would the father be on parish relief even though he has an occupation. ? In 1841 he was a miner and in 1871 and ag lab.

1851  Glodwick. Oldham. 
Hilton head  36 Carrier, Pauper 6/s per week. b Oldham
 Hilton wife  33  b Derbyshire
Hilton  dau 12  cotton frame tenter b Oldham
Hilton dau  10 b Oldham
Hilton  dau 7 b Oldham
 Hilton son  5 b Oldham
 Hilton  dau  3 b Oldham
 Hilton son 10 Mo b Oldham

[RJ_Paton]

He may have listed his "normal" trade/occupation but was actually out of work at the time.

[stanmapstone]

The census schedule asks for "Rank, Profession, or Occupation" Census Ref. HO107; Piece: 2241; Folio: 123; Page: 35

Stan

[wilcoxon]

 I see , so he was just  not in work.  Not a lot  of money to keep his family with !
At least one child was working so it probably kept them out of the workhouse.

[stanmapstone]

With the 1834 POOR LAW AMENDMENT ACT people receiving help from the parish were supposed to live in a workhouse & could no longer live at home. However because of the stigma attached to the Workhouse, and despite the intentions of the 1834 Act, the vast majority - even up to 90 per cent in some areas, in the early 1860's - received outdoor relief (-i.e. outside the work house, not as an inmate). This relief took the form of a small sum of money (one or two shillings), or income in kind (usually loaves of bread) or both. it was normally granted for reasons like the death of a husband, sickness, desertion by the husband, age and infirmity and occasionally it was granted to able bodied men out of work.

Stan

[sallyyorks]

 

I have a family in 1851, why would the father be on parish relief even though he has an occupation. ? In 1841 he was a miner and in 1871 and ag lab.

1851  Glodwick. Oldham. 
Hilton head  36 Carrier, Pauper 6/s per week. b Oldham
 Hilton wife  33  b Derbyshire
Hilton  dau 12  cotton frame tenter b Oldham
Hilton dau  10 b Oldham
Hilton  dau 7 b Oldham
 Hilton son  5 b Oldham
 Hilton  dau  3 b Oldham
 Hilton son 10 Mo b Oldham

Do you know if the family are paupers in Oldham in 1861 as well ? Oldham was hit hard by the Cotton Famine 1861-1865  . This would have affected other local industries too, like coal mining . There is a big park in the Glodwick area that commemorates it .

"..Alexandra Park is a public park in Oldham, Greater Manchester, England. It was created in response to the Lancashire Cotton Famine of 1861–1865 as an attempt to keep local textile workers employed.[1] The park is located in the Glodwick area of Oldham.."
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[Nicky_j_r]

People were very, very poor.

This link to an article about conditions in oldham is very interesting.

Also, I'm tracing the Hilton my line (my mothers maiden name) in the Oldham/Lees/Springhead are.

[Nicky_j_r]

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Oldham/

[mirl]

1861 Census RG9/3022/59/30 he is an ag lab