May Sophia DENTON b abt 1883 Abingdon

[jan57]

Wonder  if this  is  Harry  in 1891  lodging with  Alfred Brickall  and family 

 He's (Harry)  a General  Labourer    but states he's single , ( which is  why   I'm a bit doubtful   it's the correct  person ,)

Henry Denton

Age:
30

Estimated birth year:
abt 1861

Relation:
Lodger

Gender:
Male

Where born:
Sutton Courtenay, Berkshire, England

Civil Parish:
Sutton Courtney

[Connie Sparrow]

Wonder  if this  is  Harry  in 1891  lodging with  Alfred Brickall  and family 

 He's (Harry)  a General  Labourer    but states he's single , ( which is  why   I'm a bit doubtful   it's the correct  person ,)

Henry Denton Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation: Lodger
Where born: Sutton Courtenay, Berkshire
Civil Parish: Sutton Courtney

If that is May Sophia's father, technically he would be single since his wife had died. Alfred Brickall asks him if he's married. No, says Henry. Not married = single.

He's certainly a possibility.  I'll keep a note of him.  Thank you

Incidentally May Sophia was still in Burghley Road in 1945.  I think she moved to Hampstead after that.

[Milliepede]

Good you've found some more stuff 

Have we got a birth for May Sophia yet?  I can't find one, wondering if she was born somewhere other than Abingdon tho if her mother died there it would seem to be the logical place

[Milliepede]

How old was the groom when she married?  Wondering if she changed her age to be younger than him.

1901 Kensington census

May Denton 24 servant born Sutton Wick Berkshire *

Might not be your girl but ties in with this birth Abingdon Mar 1877 May Denton.

* No don't think it's right she seems to be with parents William & Emma in 1881.

[Milliepede]

Found a family tree with May Sophia Denton on which gives her parents as Harry born 1855 St Pancras London and Elizabeth Eva born 1860 St Pancras London. 
Harry is a bricklayer.

Tree has a brother for May Sophia born 7 May 1884 Abingdon Albert Orchard but there is a birth reg for Albert Archer Denton Dec 1884 Abingdon 2c 305. 
Records lead to him being one of the inmates in 1891.

Doesn't make much sense does it 

[Connie Sparrow]

Good you've found some more stuff 

Have we got a birth for May Sophia yet?  I can't find one, wondering if she was born somewhere other than Abingdon tho if her mother died there it would seem to be the logical place

No, no birth so far.  I've tried open searches just on DENTON, just on May.  Nothing is coming out of the woodwork. Mary isn't working either.  I have her only on the one census for sure so no help there. The 1891 is a possible/probable hit which does fit with other info. It's possible she was born elsewhere but believed that was where she was from because she'd been told that's "where we're from".  It's always reassuring when others can't find a birth/marriage/death.

The Ellen DENTON I found in the workhouse in 1891 said she was from Milton, but that comes under Abingdon RD.

[Connie Sparrow]

How old was the groom when she married?  Wondering if she changed her age to be younger than him.

1901 Kensington census

May Denton 24 servant born Sutton Wick Berkshire *

Might not be your girl but ties in with this birth Abingdon Mar 1877 May Denton.

* No don't think it's right she seems to be with parents William & Emma in 1881.

Her husband was 22 when they married and it wasn't a shotgun wedding either.  They married in Nov 1902 and their first child, Winifred, was born in Dec 1903.

I had toyed with the idea she was older than Samuel or younger than she claimed and lied, that she was a widow and that Harry DENTON was her stepfather.  Nothing's panning out though.

[Connie Sparrow]

Found a family tree with May Sophia Denton on which gives her parents as Harry born 1855 St Pancras London and Elizabeth Eva born 1860 St Pancras London. 
Harry is a bricklayer.

Tree has a brother for May Sophia born 7 May 1884 Abingdon Albert Orchard but there is a birth reg for Albert Archer Denton Dec 1884 Abingdon 2c 305. 
Records lead to him being one of the inmates in 1891.

Doesn't make much sense does it 

Not a lot.

There's definitely a Harry born in London:

Births Jun 1855    Denton       Harry         St Pancras    1b   59

There's a marriage for a Henry in London but it's before Sophia Ann's death:

Marriages Mar 1883
DENTON    Henry         Hampstead    1a   1060
NICHOLS    Elizabeth         Hampstead    1a   1060

That marriage is in Ancestry so I know it's right.  I was rather hoping it would be the other bride, Eliza Sophia COVENTRY, but nooo There are no baptisms for a May NICHOLS either.

In the 1881 which Suz found which has a married dau, Sophia Ann DENTON, there was also an Albert Archer SMITH, aged 12. So the brother assigned to May Sophia in the tree could have been named after his uncle.

I've done a rough and ready search for a marriage for a Harry/Henry to an Elizabeth Eva in case he remarried after Sophia's death but haven't found anything so far.  I'll have another go at that tomorrow.

So although that tree doesn't make complete sense, it might be fairly close.  That's something else I'll have a look at tomorrow..

Looks like we might be getting there slowly.

Thank you for your thoughts and finds.  I'm glad it's not just me

[Milliepede]

Might be a couple of trees squashed into one and the children born Abingdon don't belong there.
Makes more sense the children would be in the workhouse if their mother (Sophia) had died.  If they belonged to the other couple who were alive and well why wouldn't they be living with them in London. 

Marriage to Elizabeth Eva should be around 1875/6.  But I can't see one that fits.  You found a birth for Harry so that appears to have been his name.  I wondered if Harry/Henry was his middle name.  She is down as Lizzie so that's another name combination to look for!