Regarding Julia and the breeches, I was conflating Daniel's probable half sister with his probable daughter. I shouldn't do too much without looking at my notes.
^ Interesting. I shall have to go and read up on this 1607 treaty.I did see a reference to Daniel Mahony’s velvet breeches, but not the name of the daughter – where did you get Julia?John, you mentioned on a previous post that the Brownes started off as Catholics and were allied to James II. My Brownes did use the name Valentine, and it would be nice to think they were from the Kenmare family, but I’ve not got any evidence for it yet.The most plausible suggestion I have seen for my Brownes is that they descend from a Rev. Matthew Browne (c1735-1788) of St. James and St. Catherine in Dublin. He was the son of a William Browne in County Monaghan. The Rev. Matthew Browne may have named his sons Chaworth and Brabazon in honour of his patrons the Earls of Meath.Anyway, that’s probably another story for another thread.
87 "O'Lalour"s were expelled from Queen's County (Laois) in 1607. They were one of "The Seven Septs of Leix" - http://patrick.lallour.pagesperso-orange.fr/Olalour/ol87.htmThey ended up on Crosbie land in Tarbert - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarbert,_County_Kerry.
100% NOT the Monaghan ones who are still around in Monaghan!!Ballylongford Browns!!it would be nice to think they were from the Kenmare family, and as you can see they do connect!
